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At least there are some good guys among the bad and a bad guy among the good; so it adds some drama.

Tell me what action/fantasy/sci-fi movie is not good guy vs. bad guy ? More specifically, bad guys have an evil plan to do something destructive, and good guys somehow ruins it. Star War, X men, all the superheros ones, 007, and I can keep name more (at least that is the theme of the individual movies, if not the theme of the whole sequence).

The critique Warcraft received most is about the lack of character development; lack of a clear lead actor/actress. In some sense, it is not necessarily a bad thing because it breaks the old "one dude with protagonist aura that never dies" Holywood pattern.

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An old and maybe not terribly popular one is Enemy Mine. There are bad guys, but they're humans, and they only play a role near the end. But they aren't primary to the story. It's mostly a story of two people thrown together in a shitty situation and learning to get along despite their initial hatred for each other.

There are lots of scifi movies where the story only barely, rather than primarily, deals with the idea of good guys versus bad guys, if it puts them together directly at all. Moon, The Martian, Gravity are recent ones. Interstellar, in its way.

Less true of fantasy which pulls its stories from the idea of grand epics with noble warriors fighting monsters and villains.

Action movies without an idea of good guy and bad guy is a challenge. Maybe I'll think of one while I lie in bed tonight but off the top of my head there aren't any occurring to me.

One of my favorite sci-fi movies of all time – Gravity – doesn't really have good guys or bad guys; just a crappy situation.

For those that haven't seen it, it's pretty much only worth seeing in theaters, in 3D.

> Tell me what action/fantasy/sci-fi movie is not good guy vs. bad guy ?

Ice Station Zebra http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063121/

"Wanted" Kinda. The villain wasn't really a villain cuz he was trying to save his family (along with himself), while the protagonist isn't really a good guy either.

though not sci-fi, but check out hiyao miyazaki's anime, really well done and he has this way of never portraying characters as bad, everyone is good, very consistent across all his movies, princess mononoke, porco rosso, my neighbor totoro, etc

Confucian and especially communist culture prefers not to have the dude with protagonist aura

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