>> Are you seriously saying that foreign students subsidize the education of US citizens? That is one of the most absurd statements I've ever read on HN. US student's educations are paid for by student loans, they fund their own tuitions I can assure you.

Absurd? Perhaps. However, it is reality and happening in the University of California system. [1] The tuition for CA residents (regardless how they choose to finance this -- which is what you are referring to) is currently only maintained by the large number of out of state (and international) admissions. The problem has gotten so bad that a bill was passed in the state legislature to limit the out of state student enrollment. [2]

>> Attending university in the US is a privilege and that does not mean you should be guaranteed a job in the United States upon graduation.

A privilege that is only accessible to the most privileged foreigners (because they are wealthy in their home countries) or most talented (who receive financial assistance from private organizations, or in some cases their home country).

>> You seem to have a real sense of entitlement that because you went to school in the US the US owes you a job. Wow.

I certainly did not make the case that any graduate of a US university is entitled to any job. I agree with you.

Taking the perspective of a business, how would you incentive your business not to hire the best available candidates who are already in the country (regardless of whether or not they are foreign-born)?

>> This idea that the most talented people can only be found from outside the US needs to just die. If the US were so bereft of talent none of these companies that these H1B visa folks want to work for would exist. Ditto for the US universities they attend.

This is not what I said. I was referring to US-born and foreign-born students attending the same universities for the same duration. I did not advocate for bringing people into the country.

Note that those international students having attended US institutions of higher education can already start working for any employer under the post graduation Optional Practical Training (OPT) for a few years.

>> This idea of relocating people to London for year is just gaming the system.

Agreed. I am not advocating for this. Just describing that this is happening.

[1]: http://www.mercurynews.com/education/ci_29954758/california-...

[2]: http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert...