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Are they all on EC2? Maybe EC2 is throwing a fit.

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Amazon is, but Apple and Facebook both operate their own data centers.

Edit: I take that back, Apple uses several cloud providers, including AWS.

BGP? Tier-1 issues?

And also Azure

Apple does use S3 for storage. You didn't hear it from me.

They also use AT&T and Azure for storage too.

You did hear that from me, or anyone else with a firewall running on OS X.

...AT&T for data storage?

https://www.business.att.com/enterprise/Portfolio/cloud/

They're a massive company. When you already own telecom networks and run your own datacenters, selling cloud infrastructure services isn't too far fetched.

and Google Cloud Storage as well!

You just have to run littlesnitch, and see all the AWS servers that Apple applications hit. I don't think it's a secret that a ton of Apple applications are backended by AWS.

All hail Little Snitch. So much insight available in that app. I wish there were rule sets for Little Snitch like there are for AdBlock Plus.

lost -i in the Terminal.app will do this as well.

With a little grep-fu you could have yourself a good watchdog.

I get 'command not found' so I'm assuming I have to install something? But I can't find anything when I search Google because of the generic name.

I believe he meant to write `lsof -i`

That works a lot better! Thanks both.

oh i'm still not used to the autocorrect on OS X. Thank you for correcting my error.

Indeed, I've read multiple articles about it, some of which seem to have been fed by the Apple PR machine:

http://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-cuts-aws-spending-signs-w...

They also use METRIC TONS of ultra high-end storage.

Actually that's not saying much, because a single cabinet is around a metric ton.

So it was unintentionally accurate.

Apple discusses who it uses for cloud storage when discussing iCloud in their security guide (valid as of May 2016):

> The encrypted chunks of the file are stored, without any user-identifying information, using third-party storage services, such as Amazon S3 and Windows Azure.

[0]: https://www.apple.com/business/docs/iOS_Security_Guide.pdf

AWS status page is all green.

http://status.aws.amazon.com/

Just for the record, our company has found that Amazon occasionally omits incidents from their status page, though I doubt they could get away with omitting something this significant.

All of the cloud providers have an incentive to downplay incidents and only post them to the status page when they're really bad. The bar is pretty high to get something on there.

I mean, they outline them in their fineprint. Amazon doesn't consider the unavailability of 1 EC2 availability zone an outage because their position is that you should be architecting around that. 2 or more AZ outages in the same region and it'll show up on their status page IIRC.

"Occasionally"? <laugh>

</laugh>

Holy shit, you were laughing for 28 minutes straight. Are you alright?

You can tell who grew up in the XHTML era rather than SGML or HTML5.

Cause you know <laugh /> is just a gulp shortcut for <chuckle> </chuckle> (which is fully IE6 compatible)

XHTML 1.0 Strict all day.

I've heard that the Doppler effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppler_effect is responsible for AWS status page to show up green perennially.

On a serious note, why would AWS admit that it's services were not quite working well and subject itself to potential liabilities.

AWS reacts shamelessly even when your EC2 instance goes down on it's own. For a sample of how they react, see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11822298

The only Apple thing that I know was on AWS was the beats1 radio thing when it launched, not sure if it still is.

Photos uses AWS for storage.

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