And supporting abortion is supporting murder. And so is eating meat, etc etc.
This is all political Framing & labelling.
If it's on the ballot, its a valid politics, and so should be off the table wrt things like getting people fired.
And supporting abortion is supporting murder. And so is eating meat, etc etc.
This is all political Framing & labelling.
If it's on the ballot, its a valid politics, and so should be off the table wrt things like getting people fired.
How is it political for you?
If it is political for you, shouldn't you support the idea of being able to express political views without fear of repriosal?
There is no freedom from criticism in this country, your fellow citizens are absolutely free to judge you, talk mean about you, and otherwise belittle your views.
If a public official arrests you for talking about your political beliefs, then and only then have your rights been infringed upon.
> fellow citizens are absolutely free to judge you, talk mean about you, and otherwise belittle your views
Even if your view is being gay is, or is not, natural. There are certain protections against freely expressing certain opinions.
> If a public official arrests you for talking about your political beliefs, then and only then have your rights been infringed upon.
Does being fined by a court after losing a lawsuit count as government reprisal?
Does getting fired for voting for Obama, or Trump count as having my right infringed?
What about being active, or critical, of LGBT activities? Can I be fired for that, so long as I'm not arrested?
Was he fired from a position in the federal government?
Private businesses are free to fire whoever they like for almost any reason (cant fire someone for refusing to break the law, etc)
Everything past that is just you feeling hurt that people dont agree with your opinions. Introducing legislation controlling private businesses hiring and firing practices is easily one of the most anti-conservative things i can think of, yet here you are claiming to be conservative and yet complaining that the government is allowing companies too much freedom to decide who can and cannot be fired and for what reason.
>Does being fined by a court after losing a lawsuit count as government reprisal?
this is super vague; in court against the government? I would imagine a fine from the federal government represents some kind of reprisal, but not necessarily related in any way to consitutional rights. Losing a court case isnt 'speech', so im not sure i understand the reasoning behind this question.
>Does getting fired for voting for Obama, or Trump count as having my right infringed?
Only if you are employed by the government.
>What about being active, or critical, of LGBT activities? Can I be fired for that, so long as I'm not arrested?
again, you can be fired for (almost) any reason by any private entity. You could get fired because the manager thought you got a shitty haircut.
Have you never heard of at-will employment?
At-will, american businesses in certain cities and states, under certain restrictions. I don't see any reason not to condemn it - just because in may not be explicitly illegal in some places.
If he were an active gay-rights supporter, and fired for that, would you refuse to talk of it since in many place this isn't illegal?
Also, I'm no expert, but I'm not sure if executives are usually at-will, I was under the impression it was often contracted.
> Everything past that is just you feeling hurt that people don't agree with your opinions
Feeling hurt =/= feeling at risk of being fired, a valid concern.
> one of the most anti-conservative things i can think of
Is it?
> yet here you are claiming to be conservative
No I'm not. Plus, voting prop 8, and the vague distinction of "being conservative" are different things. Whatever my personal beliefs, I dislike the idea of this guy being fired for his political activity, I don't think you need to agree with his beliefs to take that position. Ever heard "..but I will defend to the death your right to say it"?
> and yet complaining that the government is allowing companies too much freedom
I feel there would be uproar (in the valley) if the guy was fired for supporting prop 8. In truth I don't have so many complains on what the US government does, I don't live there; I do care about political ideologies that often get transmitted across the borders though.
> Losing a court case isnt 'speech'
Where does that distinction come in? Or the constitution. I never mentioned it. Freedoms and rights exist outside of the US constitution, in other countries for example.