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More importantly, the current deficit is ~1 trillion / year. Adding Sanders' proposals will increase this by ~200%. I would like to see an analysis of how to make up that extra ~2 trillion / year in spending by increasing taxes and closing loopholes. Include the savings from not paying for healthcare. I would bet the median taxpayer would see their costs go up.

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I would bet the median taxpayer would see their costs go up.

This is likely true, but I also expect it would be worth it in terms of social stability and progress. It's okay if your costs go up if you also get better health and education out of the deal, so earning power also goes up.

Every voter gets to decide if they find that okay. Your opinion isn't really operative.

I was raised in a very conservative environment. I now hold progressive opinions because I find the arguments compelling. It seems insane to me to deny large segments of the population access to the things everyone else uses to succeed (education and healthcare), and then expect those outcast people not to commit crimes or drain welfare or break down civil society.

There are many who agree, so lots of voters will be voting to express that agreement. You can try to change my mind, but you must do so by solid argument, not by telling me my opinion isn't operative.

For what it's worth, the entire civilised world agrees with you.

If you don't agree you're probably ignoring the cost of maintaining social order in some other way.

As for what every voter gets - a pull at a lever with minimal connection to person and no connection to policy.

Current deficit is actually about 500 billion per year.

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