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Comment by abhi3 | Hacker News Reader

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Summary:

Article tries to analyse why NYC is jumping spots on the top ten US startup cities list (Up to 2nd from 5th) and also what went wrong for seattle.

Article concludes that while its conventional wisdom that successful IPO's and exits help the ecosystem, in the case of NYC the opposite is true.

Failure of big startups like Fab put people back into the ecosystem who then built new companies and helped scale other growing startups. People who were previously at Fab have gone on to build some of NYC’s hottest startups from theSkimm to General Assembly to ClassPass.

Employees from FourSquare and Gilt are now in senior roles at NYC breakouts Buzzfeed, InVision, Betterment, and DigitalOcean.

While in Seattle risk averseness of tech talent, lack of capital compared to SV/NYC and unsupportive investor base are leading to it falling down places.

Original aritcle: 1950 words (10 minute read) Summary: 140 words (less than a minute)

Summary does a good job of covering the main points of the article but there are more issues that the author goes into. Reading reccomended if you are intrigued.

If you'd like such summaries for all articles before you invest your time to read them check out: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11535695

Summary comments are bad for HN discussion. They're actually off-topic, because the topic is X, not "what is X about". It's also not a legitimate way to promote your startup, so please stop.

Regular "TL;DR" comments are also off-topic?

You're the boss, but my personal view is that this is a very legitimate way to promote his Apply HN:

it is a summary from the post (I've always appreciated TL;DR comments);

it is a demo of the product (it does not supplicate for upvotes through any sort of friendship appeal, only invites those from a legitimate audience who liked the demo to support his Apply HN);

From the FAQ: Can I ask people to upvote my submission?

No. Users should vote for a story because it's intellectually interesting, not because someone is promoting it.

Well, this is promotion, but also it is a promotion that ask you to judge if the idea is interesting and upvote if you agree.

The original post announcing Apply HN encouraged one to convince the community of the value of one's idea/application, I considered providing the service to HN (which is the initial target audience) as way of doing exactly that. You are the final authority on what is appropriate here and what is not, so I'll stop. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.

As mentioned by others in the other threads, I would not recommend continuing these summaries in an attempt to promote your Apply HN.

At minimum, it is an attempt to influence votes.

I also disagree. HN has a system in place to decide if these comments are worthy/useful/fair.

If this kind of summary is getting upvotes it is both proof of concept and promotion of the Apply HN. I see no problem with that. What is the problem in trying to influence people to upvote his application? It seems to me that this kind of influence is a feature, not a bug of this kind of application that YC chose to test.

I like it. I'm busy and that summary was really nice. Let him have his one line advertisement.

His one line ad is repeated across several articles.

His service is providing value. Why can't he mention the product and promote it further?

See dang's comment in reply to the GP.

>I would not recommend ... it is an attempt to influence votes.

Are you accusing him of breaking a rule or a spirit of a rule? Because your comment reads like that.

To me, this is an unequivocally useful service, and those imaginary internet points are well-earned. Very often a quick summary in the user's own words bubbles up to the top because people find it genuinely useful.

Per the FAQ:

> Can I ask people to upvote my submission?

> No. Users should vote for a story because it's intellectually interesting, not because someone is promoting it.

I added the "at minimum" since it is a bad tactical decision for the OP anyways as it would potentially trigger the voting ring detector.

And no, "genuinely useful" does not morally counteract the impact of the promotion.

I have nothing against the summaries but HN puts new comments on top for short duration and it's really annoying to sift through the summary because I have already read the article.

Because of that, these summaries are just comment spam.

I upvoted because I found the comment useful. I honestly didn't even see the one line at the end until you called it out. No problem here, please keep the summaries coming. I find them valuable.

I disagree. More power to you. Please keep it up. Best of luck.

Why not? I like it.

I'd love a version of this for longer form content. A lot of business books actually do have useful content BUT do not require 200-500 pages. I'd pay the same for a 10-20 page summary.

There's https://www.blinkist.com that condenses popular books into 15-minute reads

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