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I think what the issue is when it comes to the male boss/female employee dynamic is those power trips frequently take on a sexual dynamic in private.

Dominance is messily tied into sexuality. This plays out in school locker rooms and boarding school dormitories.

I know one manager I used to work with who seemed nice but literally every single hire he has made has been an asian female.

So what? In itself, this shouldn't be a significant factor. Please explain this: Do you think for some reason that asian females are somehow more enticing or vulnerable? Just how large a sample size are we talking here? Is his department a dozen asian women? Twenty?

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> So what? In itself, this shouldn't be a significant factor.

1) He is clearly hiring based on a fetish he has.

2) They were hired to replace male, white, african-american, or hispanic members of his department over a period of ~2 years. The area is almost entirely a white and/or hispanic population so there is no way this is coincidence.

3) The odds of a guy rolling the same 20 sided die 12 times and always coming up with the same number is highly improbable. Roughly 5% of the applicants were female and Asian. I somehow doubt the most competent were always in that 5%.

4) Its a baker's dozen (13).

1) He is clearly hiring based on a fetish he has.

That's a pretty strong, even in terms of your analysis. Would you have thought he had a fetish if all of his hires were black men?

> That's a pretty strong, even in terms of your analysis.

You do understand the probability of the strongest hire in 12 separate rolls of the die being female and asian is absurdly small right?

We are talking thousandths of a percentage point here. The odds of that being a "natural" distribution is absurd.

Similarly, I know from one of them that he has engaged in the sort of sexual harassment behavior I'd expect from a guy who hired on a fetish.

> Would you have thought he had a fetish if all of his hires were black men?

If one of them mentioned sexual harassment and he was living in an area where they were a single digit percentage of the population? Yes.

You do understand the probability of the strongest hire in 12 separate rolls of the die being female and asian is absurdly small right?

We are talking thousandths of a percentage point here. The odds of that being a "natural" distribution is absurd.

There are a bunch of places that hire out of whack to the natural distribution of the population.

If one of them mentioned sexual harassment

That's much stronger evidence in combination. But I think it's weird you led with the population distribution in your account, not the reported behavior.

> That's much stronger evidence in combination. But I think it's weird you led with the population distribution in your account, not the reported behavior.

I wasn't expecting someone to argue that it was reasonable to have a homogeneous population of hires on a gender/race axis.

> There are a bunch of places that hire out of whack to the natural distribution of the population.

I've never encountered one IRL that was homogeneous of a female minority hired by a white male.

Can you provide examples of this happening on the scale you state?

Can you provide examples of this happening on the scale you state?

I find it telling that you were assuming I was talking about female minorities. Reread.

Why don't you provide examples rather than insisting I read your intentions in vague statements?

I was discussing the context of my comment, not the world in general.

So once again:

Please provide examples where homogeneity on both the gender and race axis occurs so frequently this could be considered a reasonable event?

And the boss is attracted to that gender?

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> There are a bunch of places that hire out of whack to the natural distribution of the population.

That is what I was talking about xD

Please provide examples where homogeneity on both the gender and race axis occurs so frequently this could be considered a reasonable event?

I never made such a claim. I'm not sure what you're going on about, as I essentially agreed with you a few comments ago. Reread. Check yourself, specifically the conclusions you are jumping to.

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