Comment by riotdash | Hacker News Reader

Comment by riotdash | Hacker News Reader

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"Apple is just as proprietary, commercial and anti-competitive as Microsoft here."

The big difference is that Apple actually doesn't fk their users in the ass.

People always complain how Apple products are so expensive etc. but you know that's how they make money and they actually invest in to the privacy and security of their users (good example: the FBI case)

I will happily keep on paying high price for the Apple products in the future too as long as all of my personal data is not being broadcasted to hundreds of spy servers, as long as random ads are not being slammed to my face while I'm developing and as long and I AM in the control of the OS and not the other way around. Maybe some people enjoy being slaves to MS but at least some people wanna decide THEMSELVES how their hosts-file work and when their computer should restart to install the updates.

I'm sorry but Microsoft has been, is and most likely will be horrible company in the future too. Unless they completely stop this BS and start to respect their users and keep it that way I can't believe any rational developer considers MS platform as an option.

> The big difference is that Apple actually doesn't fk their users in the ass.

Like with their SMB support? When, given the choice of complying with the GPL or re-writing an SMB client from scratch, Apple chose the latter and subjected users to utterly broken SMB support for several releases just so they did not have to open source their pitiful collection of patches?

Apple is pretty user-hostile. Moreso than MS in my estimation. Try changing the battery in your iphone, or getting music on it without using itunes.

Sure. But aren't we past changing batteries? They're less an issue than changing screens these days. And screens have never been easily replaceable. Its just us old folks who expect the battery to come out.

Those of us that aren't drinking the apple kool aid aren't past changing batteries. And I'm old. Perhaps Apple is just old-person-hostile, which amounts to about the same thing for me.

> Try changing the battery in your iphone

Try changing the battery in your Lumia.

My Lumia 640 has replaceable battery. It might be a windows phone though.

Hah! You're right. Microsoft's own devices actually do all have replaceable batteries, only (most of) the older Nokia-branded Lumias have soldered batteries.

And I'll try changing it in my Nexus. We're at the point where the inability to change your battery is pretty common place on flagship phones.

>I will happily keep on paying high price for the Apple products in the future too as long as all of my personal data is not being broadcasted

Yeah I'm sure all those celebs that had all their nude photos stolen from icloud would totally agree that Apple takes great care with personal data.

Are you trying to justify needlessly spending 600$ on a phone every year? That's your prerogative, you don't have to convince strangers on the internet.

Apples security was not breached, those celebrities fell for a phishing scam.

"Yeah I'm sure all those celebs that had all their nude photos stolen from icloud would totally agree that Apple takes great care with personal data."

All systems have had and still have security flaws. There is a world of difference between having a unknown vulnerability (which affects and will affect all platforms) and intentionally spying on users and stealing their information.

All systems have flaws at some point, but not all systems equal in terms of exploitable value for the effort.

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