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Given all the horrors @taviso posted concerning Comodo and AVAST etc, it's really really sad to see that the remains of Opera Software are now in fact being bought by a consortium that amongst other things are running "an anti-virus maker that ships a browser". What could possibly go wrong?

And the fact that Qihoo recently got busted in a Volkswagen-like scam when their "anti virus software" was tested does not inspire confidence in their business ethics either: http://www.computerworld.com/article/2917384/malware-vulnera...

The wikipedia page for "360 Secure Browser" says: "High usage numbers may be due to the browser being difficult to uninstall and a warning pop-up that appears when a user attempts to install another browser, claiming that the other browser is unsafe and should not be run." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/360_Secure_Browser

This article gives a bit more context: http://www.digital-dd.com/qihoo-browser-war/

Argh, that article has the "Things are different in China" excuse in there that utterly makes my blood boil. Granted, things are different in China, but that doesn't excuse fraud or 豆腐渣编程[0].

They're worse than Baidu.

[0] tofu dreg programming

I don't think your translation helped anyone understand that phrase.

Sorry, it's based off tofu dreg construction, which is a chinese slang term meaning substandard, rushed construction. Used either as 豆腐渣工程 or just 豆腐工程. I've heard it explained as old tofu being mixed into concrete to push up volume, that it refers to buildings being built as sturdy as blocks of tofu, or spilled concrete that wasn't removed looking like tofu dregs.

I've taken to using 豆腐编程 (doufubiancheng) to refer to the sturdier variant of chinese software engineering, which suffers from similar quality issues as chinese construction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tofu-dreg_project

see also this wonderful image: https://twitter.com/Linde136/status/696286289474228225/photo...

This image is actually from a recent earthquake in Taiwan, whereas Tofu dreg projects are mostly referring to low quality constructions in mainland China.

Shit is shit wherever shit may be.

I think the linked photo is a clear example of the spirit of the euphemism.

I was surprised to see that Qihoo 360 was credited in most of the qemu CVEs from earlier this week:

https://www.debian.org/security/2016/dsa-3471

The company might be rogue but they do have a very strong security team.. maybe the best in China and one of the best in the world.

kim jong un also has a strong Nuclear research team.

A rogue tech company developing software is as dangerous as a rogue nation developing Nuclear weapon

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