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This is good advice. However, realistically you will have to rely on their kindness in the end.

No matter how much equity you will negotiate right now, in the next 5-6 years there are ten of thousands things that will dilute/ make it obsolete. You should ask for your equity right now. But take note that if the negotiation doesn't go well, whatever you got might not be of any value, act accordingly.

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>> This is good advice. However, realistically you will have to rely on their kindness in the end.

I agree. Maybe one way to go about it, organise a one-to-one coffee, talk about what you've been through, basically what you've told us, and tell them how you feel about equity, and what you're worried about. This will build the rapport that will make it easier for them to be kind.

Absolutely aware of dilution and all - it's more a matter of principle. I've worked my ass off and surely should have some entitlement to the company of helped build.

I was originally offered stock options in a staff pool - but I'm not happy with that. That will dilute so much and be worth nothing eventually. They're aware of this which is why we're discussing equity.

So hard..

Yes, you have more leverage before you sign the contract to join the company than after...Use it or lose it...Your contract is your entitlement.

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