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Express isn't like Rails. It's more like Sinatra, but has probably even less stuff. There's no official or popular Rails for Node yet. People have made stuff like Sails but not many use it.

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Keep in mind Sails has stagnated and there's a fork called TrailJS now.

The NodeJS 3rd-party ecosystem is really really fragile at the moment.

Yeah that's what I meant. The Node ecosystem doesn't really care for Rails-like frameworks so they stagnate. Most Ruby companies run Rails. Most Node companies run Express, Hapi, or Koa. Not Sails.

For anyone who's interested, the github repo: https://github.com/trailsjs/trails

It's rails like through its middleware pipeline design. That's a requirement for me.

That allows Express third party middleware to add missing parts like Strong Params and easier HTTP Caching.

It would be nice to have batteries included but not at the cost of a giant box still design that I suspect Sails and other have. Pipeline design is important and Express does that really good.

Gotcha, thought you meant something else. Thanks for clearing it up. Have you looked into koa[1]?

[1] https://github.com/koajs/koa

Koajd has the same problem Express.js has, its batteries/middleware are not Omakase first class but third party. So I expect friction as things move forward in terms of updates. Ever dealt with RubyGems when upgrading Rails?

Imagine if your core app consisted of all different third party libs and you wanna update Express/Koa?

Then we have typedefinitions for all those libraries. Which why I'm looking for alternatives with typed languages.

You might have misunderstood my question or I'm getting things wrong again. :-)

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