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Because its morally bankrupt?

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It's morally bankrupt to give people a job?

See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10367855

And taking someone else's money at gunpoint is not? Taxes ain't voluntary, you know.

Of course it's voluntary. You are more than welcome to leave the country.

The US still demands my taxes 10 years after I leave the country.

Minor correction: Not 10 years after you leave, but for 10 years after walking into a US embassy and relinquishing citizenship. Only then, you have the privilege to pay tax to a state you no longer are a citizen of for the next 10 years. For all other US citizens working overseas, you owe uncle sam a tax return every year no matter if it's for 5 years or 50. Only two nations in the world tax their citizens who live abroad. The other one is an African dictatorship.

> Minor correction: Not 10 years after you leave, but for 10 years after walking into a US embassy and relinquishing citizenship

What specifically are you guys referring to? I can't find any reference to a 10-year tax obligation after renouncing US citizenshp. Is this part of the post 2008 expatriation tax?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expatriation_tax#United_States

http://www.forbes.com/2010/03/23/expatriation-exit-tax-limba...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2015/02/11/thousands-...

https://www.irs.gov/Individuals/International-Taxpayers/Expa...

Thanks for the info. That was a frustrating read.

What would stop you from not paying ?

Presumably the long arm of the US judicial system. I doubt they'd send drones after you in a non-extradition country, but short of that there's a lot they could potentially do to make your life very unpleasant.

So you can choose:

* Pay up to the state

* Get thrown in jail

* Go in exile

Or option 4 (by far the most popular) - emigrate to another area.

Under the assumption that everything you have and get is just and fair I agree. It is a strong assumption though, and It deserves to be examined.

Externalities: Do you contribute to pollution? If so should you not then pay a fair price in compensation to us all for that privilege?

Rule of law: Do you derive rent, or benefits, from property? Are you not dependent on society to define those property rights, and enforce them? Should you not pay a fair price in compensation for that privilege?

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