Once again the French show the world what they are best in. Waiving the white flag and submitting when threatened.
They even suspended parts of the human rights convention on their territory after the terror attacks in Paris.
They even suspended parts of the human rights convention on their territory after the terror attacks in Paris.
First, you can't post comments to HN slurring an entire people. Users who upvoted this should be ashamed of themselves.
Second, please stop posting inflammatory political comments to HN. That's not what this site is for.
Now for the present situation, like most democratic country on earth we are at the mercy of a small political elite that will do whatever it wants since they are in power and when we vote them out their twins from the other branch of the unique party apply the same politic with minor cosmetic change.
1. This is a leaked document, not an official one.
2. This would need to be adopted by the National Assembly, Senate, and Ethic Commission to be effective.
3. France didn't roll back on it's promise to accept Syrian refugees like others have done.
Yes it is worrying, but everything is not black and white.
Edit: correction... vote not over yet but it's not looking good.
( and with about half of registered voters not participating, it can still change easely )
Now they're looking at extending the emergency powers with very little oversight (by definition) indefinitely, all because the people showed "support" when the attacks happened.
So I'm done playing their sick game. I hope more people (from France especially) will start thinking the same way before it's too late.
EDIT: Relevant ruling from the European Court of Human Rights vs Russia's mass surveillance program:
> The Court noted that interception of communications pursued the legitimate aims of the protection of national security and public safety, the prevention of crime and the protection of the economic well-being of the country. However, in view of the risk that a system of secret surveillance set up to protect national security might undermine or even destroy democracy under the cloak of defending it.
http://hudoc.echr.coe.int/eng-press
France, just like the U.S. after 9/11, claimed high and mighty that they must "protect their liberties". You can't protect your liberties by killing them. You would think this should be common sense, but apparently it isn't in today's political climate in our "democracies".
France is no longer a democratic country, that's why so many people voted for Marine LePen's party last sunday. A lot of people are juste bored or frustrated by our politics, so they are seeking for some people able to change that. Even if that means electing a Nazi leader.
"Democratic" and "liberal" are not synonyms. They often go together, but they don't have to: there is indeed such a thing as an "illiberal democracy" [0], and a bunch of them exist already (e.g. Singapore, Russia). France is still democratic, though it's taken a serious turn towards illiberal recently.
They found 230 illegal weapons. That's not what I call nothing...
We could say "Oh, this means there were almost 10 illegal weapons at every raid", but, they were not evenly distributed, just like raiding every house in a dodgy estate will turn up a lot of illegal items, but most of them will be centered in a small % of properties, so, yeah, for 2500 raids, most of them will have returned nothing.
Otherwise I agree with you they're likely not to have been evenly distributed, so you can assume there were far more than 10 raids for every raids that produced one or more weapons.