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You may have noticed that my rejoinder was not entirely serious either.

Of course it's less accessible. In terms of enjoyment though, I actively seek out non-accessible music, because some of it seems to tickle a particular funny-bone and I don't find that in accessible music.

The music I put on to really enjoy on a visceral level is stuff that I can't even play ten seconds of in public settings without people yelling at me.

I dunno, people seem to find even this stuff inaccessible, but it's some of my favorite music ever:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di9xaUBKY5I

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Thank you for posting that video link! I'm listening to the album ProgXprimetal now for the first time and it's incredible.

I haven't even heard of that! Oh, it's another project with the drummer, Morgan Ågren. He does a lot of cool stuff (including the educational drumming TV show from which that link was a clip).

While googling I found a kickstarted documentary about him from 2013.

https://vimeo.com/ondemand/morgan

I think I'll watch it right now. :)

Mats Öberg, the keyboardist, is also an excellent jazz pianist and seems to play on loads of new Swedish jazz records. Here's him with his own jazz trio. He also has two very beautiful solo piano albums (they're on Spotify and iTunes).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tOykrVfIgc

While I'm geeking out... that Mats/Morgan song "Hollmervalsen" is named for Lars Hollmer ("Hollmer waltz"), a composer who played accordion and keyboard and was an important part of the Swedish progressive music scene in the 60s/60s. That scene split into a more political part and a more freaky part, and we're talking about the freaky part.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lars_Hollmer

His band Samla Mammas Manna ("Gather Mother's Manna") made some truly remarkable music. They took influences from Swedish folk music and combined it with Zappa-ish jazz rock. With the song "Musmjölkningsmaskinen" ("The Mouse Milking Machine") from 1974 you can understand they were an influence on Mats & Morgan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhDbgp1RX4M

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samla_Mammas_Manna

wow, cool. it's like a musical equivalent of semantic saturation. they zoom in on a phrase and repeat it with such odd signatures that you lose all frame of reference, but then they move onto the next part and it makes sense in the context of a greater picture / chord progression. thanks for the rec!

Nice description! Yeah, the cuts in that song are really fresh and interesting. At one point in the second half they're jamming out pretty hard and then suddenly everyone starts screaming for a few seconds, Mats pulls up his shirt and laughs, and then the guitar guys goes into an awesome solo. I always laugh at it.

The rhythm changes are just awesome too. When I first listened to it they were pretty disorienting but after a few listens I could tap my feet to it and it's so satisfying.

Here's another polyrhythmic song that's confusing at first but then really satisfying. It's by Avishai Cohen Trio, I couldn't find the original but this cover is pretty good.

https://soundcloud.com/jasper-mellema/trio-pinzin-kinzin-avi...

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