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XMPP is dead. The only people you can reach over XMPP are technically minded people and you can already reach more of them via IRC. XMPP didn't manage to spread. It's over.

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I think you may feel this as you don't see all the organisations that use XMPP internally for their office communications and video conferencing. We use it internally, we have rooms for each department and some group rooms that are very active - when a new person starts with us they often comment how good it is to have a functional internal chat system. We have OTR encryption for confidential exchanges such as providing users with passwords and developers with SQL from databases etc...

Would you mind sharing which XMPP client do you use?

Yeah we use Adium which we've found to be fantastic especially when paired with the OTR plugin.

Thanks!

Cisco apparently didn't get the message, as their unified communications runs on XMPP. And I believe their share of the communications market segment is large enough to consider XMPP anything but dead.

Facebook Messenger, Whatsapp and Weechat use XMPP. I wouldn't say it is dead.

Facebook Messenger deprecated XMPP support: https://developers.facebook.com/docs/chat Whatsapp is built using XMPP, but only as a basis. They don't want you to use it with anything but their official clients. I don't know enough about wechat.

All of them never had federation support

They deprecated the API for 3rd party developers. That doesn't mean they don't use it anymore.

Facebook frequently deprecates APIs without providing any kind of replacement when they feel that 3rd parties abuse the APIs too much for advertisements.

The Facebook Chat XMPP gateway was shut down long ago. Facebook Messenger uses the MQTT protocol, rather than XMPP.

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