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I like the twitch platform, technologically, but this really needs to be a separate site entirely. If it's connected to twitch, it'll have all the stupid twitch spam and emotes and nerds saying OMG GRILL constantly.

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>I like the twitch platform, technologically

You shouldn't. Twitch is still holding onto Flash. They could have really leveraged their position as the most used streaming site to push for adoption of HTML5 streaming. They have a HLS mode, but it's only supported on Safari/Mobile/Edge.

Actually, the player controls on the video recently[1] switched to 100% HTML5. And the video portion is switching over next year[2].

[1] http://blog.twitch.tv/2015/07/video-player-controls-now-in-h... [2] http://www.engadget.com/2015/09/25/twitch-html5-whisper-twit...

Also, if you're on a browser that supports it (I think only Safari at this point), it'll fall back to HTTP Live Streaming. I've gotten it to run in a 100% Flash-free environment.

You can do "pip install livestreamer" to install livestreamer which will automatically open the Twitch HLS URLs in VLC or another media player of your choice.

Of course Twitch should support HTML5 video though, no idea why they aren't.

I'd assume because DASH is generally a newer spec, and HLS was driven by mobile usage

Don't confuse DASH and HTML5. DASH was announced VERY shortly after HLS (within the same year). And both of these predate modern video on the web. HTML5 video does not play DASH anyway. MSE can play the same binary format as DASH, but that format was developed by microsoft for smooth streaming first.

The player is a small part of the entire platform. Flash will be completely removed next year.

They are moving over to html5 when HLS comes, if I'm not mistaken.

They are, in the meantime, settings things up to make the transition easier, e.g. moving the video controls out of the video, moving chat out of flash, etc etc

We have been using HLS exclusively for about two years now. The flash player plays the HLS stream. We will remove flash completely in 2016.

afaik this is no longer true. At least for me (using Chrome) I no longer get the Flash viewer but the new HTML5 one.

The player controls run in HTML5, but for me (using Chromium with no flash), videos still do not play.

Hasn't happened to MissCookiez yet (best Creative streamer on Twitch). I also saw a cooking channel where someone was baking Hearthstone scones which seemed alright. Not the biggest but a few thousand viewers at least.

This girl handles situations extraordinarily well. Many people tried to troll, but her attitude simply does not allow it.

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