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You shouldn't ever have to move out of someones way if they are not walking. I live in NYC so perhaps my perception is skewed but pedestrians should always have the right of way.

Don't move for runners, bikes (shouldn't on sidewalks unless it's a kid) or these things. It's up to the user to manage themselves and prevent themselves from hitting and potentially hurting others.

I see these around here and there, more and more, and don't mind them for now but if we start to get a problem with users hitting people then I'll support a sidewalk ban on them.

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The people who hit pedestrians are assholes. Pedestrians have the ultimate right of way. If they refuse to move, then you have to go slow. Just increase fines for hitting people and the problem will go away. Responsible people shouldn't be impacted by assholes who have to shave that last second from their hipster commute.

Not so common in NYC because that would get you elbowed, but in many places people walk in pairs or larger groups which blocks up traffic.

(EG When I'm biking on campus, sometimes I have to stop down completely because of 8+ students taking the entire sidewalk for them)

Biking is supposed to be done on roads, not sidewalks.

I wish this were the law everywhere. It varies by jurisdiction. "Each city in California has its own rules about riding a bicycle on the sidewalk. Some cities allow sidewalk riding, some don’t. Check with your city’s municipal code." (http://la-bike.org/resources/california-bicycle-laws)

That's quite a generalization.

Assuming you mean where it is an offence to ride on the sidewalk, I'll always choose angry peds or a penalty over getting killed by a coffee-drinking, cell-phone talking urbanite in their range rover. Or non observant lorry driver. Or bus running a red light. Etc.

Cycle a bit in a city and you'll change your view.

Cycling on sidewalks feels safer, but it's actually more dangerous. [1] The problem is that cars don't expect something moving quickly on the sidewalk, and so hit cyclists at driveways and intersections.

[1] http://www.bicyclinglife.com/Library/riskfactors.htm

There are places that are shared pedestrian/bike paths. The east side of the GG Bridge when the west side is closed for instance. In those cases I think pedestrians should at least be aware of cyclists, instead of walking 4 abreast and blocking the entire way.

Yeah I had a bicycle guy quickly drive over the pedestrian crossing almost riding right in front of me.

I don't own a car and ride almost everywhere. In all the cities I've lived, my experience has been the exact opposite. Since the majority of accidents involve intersections, riding on the sidewalk doesn't do much other than put you in a less visible position, where drivers don't expect you to be and won't be looking for you.

Disagree. I cycle to/from work and to most errands here in Boston. The bike lanes suck in most places, but bikes on sidewalks are bad news.

Don't give me that crap. I can't count the number of times I've been nearly run over by cars who refuse to give me my right of way and try every possible trajectory just so they won't be in any way impacted by a person on a bicycle. The only good part about riding on the road is the satisfaction from hearing the honks of asshole cars. I'm taking my right of way and we're paying with our lives if we have to. Fuck cars.

And before you start saying I'll be endangering pedestrians with the same outlook - no. Pedestrians have the ultimate right of way. If there are 8 walking abreast and don't make way when I ring, then so be it, I'll go at 2kph until it's safe to pass them. I'm not in a hurry.

Not on a campus sidewalk. At least not in my campus.

Then you either take the road for a bit, if it's safe, or ring them politely. It's the same if you're walking fast, which is really all biking is.

There is no road, cars are not allowed at campus after a certain point. only bikes and pedestrians..

Runners are pedestrians, too?

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