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It would also be a huge plus if it didn't take 5 seconds to load every time I opened the app. Not sure how a company with so many competitors can survive long-term with its product in such a state.

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Agreed; Google Keep has become my preference for immediate note taking. I think a major factor in Evernote's long-term survival is the friction of switching to a competitor (in conjunction with getting a lot of early traction with power-users).

I'll use Keep for everything the moment they add attachments, rich text and a clipper. It's already pretty close to what I need..

That plus folders or some sort of hierarchical organization would meet all my needs perfectly.

That'd be great. I'm using tags as a poor man's hierarchy for now. I do this on Pinboard too. Ex. #travel #travel-nyc #travel-nyc-Brooklyn.

FYI, in Pinboard it's possible to combine tags for filtering, like this: https://pinboard.in/u:kr4d/t:chicken/t:soup/t:recipe/

I really like that feature in the web app. Do you use a mobile app that supports multi-tag filtering too?

I'm not sure TBH. I tried in Pinner for iPhone, but the app is quite buggy so I'm not sure if it's supposed to work or not.

i don't trust them with my notes after google notebook went away.

Google notebook was amazing! But at the very least, they did export all notebook notes to Google docs, so it wasn't like they completely binned all user data.

agreed, it wasn't the worst outcome

What I find missing is a native Windows client. For me, "immediate" note taking means that I just hit ctrl-alt-N (or click Evernote icon in a tray), and I am immediately writing. In Google Keep, you basically need to visit a webpage, which is just not immediate. Or you use it only on mobile device?

You can install keep as a native looking desktop app by using the google app launcher, then you can open it like any other app.

Click to open a browser vs click to open a thick client... Is this really a problem?

I love Google Keep as is.

I've gone the other way (Keep to Evernote). I need a cross platform solution, and with any significant amount of data the Keep webapp is practically unusable on my iPad. If they had released a native iOS version, I probably wouldn't have switched.

> If they had released a native iOS version, I probably wouldn't have switched.

You mean like this?

https://itunes.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1029207872?mt=8

I recently switched from Android to iOS, and I deeply miss Keep.

Everything about Evernote seems to get slower and slower; I hardly use it at all anymore for that reason. Even the browser plugin to save webpages is glacial, and that was a big reason I started with Evernote in the first place.

"It's traveling to space. Give it time" - LCK

When their competitors can be 5x faster while still traveling to space that's not so hot.

(And it doesn't actually travel to space unless you're on a satellite connection.)

More often than it should. This is a huge problem with current companies and their products - they depend too much on the Internet connection, because a combination of lazy (or deadline-pressured) authors and executives trying to monetize absolutely anything.

The newest version of the Android app is actually a huge improvement here. It's now possible to launch a quick note from the desktop basically instantaneously. (It probably averages 0.3 seconds on my Galaxy S6.) Hopefully a sign of things to come.

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