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Yes, this isn't an alternative to Android wear or Apple watch, just more of the same. Fun fact: a few months ago I was looking for a wearable which had the option to store data locally - I looked at dozens of products and only three of them offered this. One needs a Windows app to transfer data over USB, the other is the Oregon Scientific Dynamo, which has a rather poor iOS app and is quite bulky and imprecise and the third one had a terrible companion app.

Everything else had a mandatory cloud sign-in and sync, with the typical meaningless privacy policy.

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No. Apple may collect data but it does not sell it to third parties.

They do support CISA though: https://www.youbetrayedus.org/

They have not endorsed CISA. What the letter they (along with Microsoft) signed called for is legislation to allow sharing information about security threats, not personal information. It just happens that the only bill that does that at the moment is CISA, which unfortunately also has clauses about sharing personal information with the government.

Google may store your data indefinitely, but it doesn't sell it to third parties.

Yet. That we know of. IIRC the way the relevant EULAs are written they could do if they wanted to.

I can't say I've actually read the EULA, but they do have a nice Privacy FAQ, which I assume is nearly as legally binding: https://support.google.com/work/answer/6056650?hl=en

"Google processes your data to fulfill our contractual obligation to deliver our services. Google’s customers own their data, not Google. The data that companies, schools and students put into our systems is theirs. Google does not sell your data to third parties. Google offers our customers a detailed Data Processing Amendment that describes our commitment to protecting your data."

Another way to look at it might be, given your data is one of their biggest assets, it would be foolish to sell it.

Google doesn't need to sell it to third parties, because they are the only party they need to monetize your data.

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