Comment by thaumaturgy | Hacker News Reader

Comment by thaumaturgy | Hacker News Reader

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I've no idea, honestly. As a practical matter, first I have to find someplace I can work. And there are no utopias.

There are a few things I'm not fond of: tornadoes, wildfires, periods of extended drought, heavy traffic, extremely high crime, dislike for Californians (Oregon & Montana). A few things I don't mind: cold and snowy Winters (it's just mountaineering with more infrastructure and support), regular storm seasons, earthquakes and hurricanes. A few things I really appreciate: mountains within a couple hours' drive, lots of outdoor activities, younger and more active and better-educated populations. Maybe Utah? (But: http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-utah-drought-20150530-st...)

Unfortunately, snowfall over the entire Rockies seems to be on a declining trend (http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/weather/news/2011-06-10-clima...), so any place that relies on the Rocky Mountain watershed is going to be dealing with drier conditions for the foreseeable future.

I'm open to suggestions.

> dislike for Californians (Oregon & Montana)

Have you considered that the dislike for Californians is due to them turning any state in which a great number of them settle…into California?

It's a perfectly natural process: whenever we leave a place, even if we dislike some aspects of it, it's still our home. We're liable to find our new homes just fine, oh 'except for just a few things.' Add up enough ex-pats, and razor-fine margins on many issues, and suddenly a relatively small number of people can have a relatively high impact on a state, while the natives residents look about themselves and wonder what the hell happened to their own homes.

Those natives then move, and the process repeats itself…

Yes, but there may also be something more insidious at work here.

http://www.washington.edu/uwired/outreach/cspn/Website/Class...

It's an interesting essay, but I would call your attention reason six.

You just described Boston. (The traffic can turn into a pain in the rear during peak times, but that's pretty avoidable and on a tech salary you can easily live somewhere you don't need a car for regular stuff.)

Have a look to south Switzerland. Lot of tech (10% of peoples are working in R&D), and it does check all you points.

New Zealand checking in. Ticks all your boxes except that I know some Californians. They are good ones.

Hey! I've heard conflicting things on how friendly NZ'rs are towards Americans. What's your take on that, y'all rather keep that gorgeous place all to yourselves?

I couldn't really claim to have any great knowledge but I would be surprised if there was any big issue. There has been fairly widespread discussion on racism of late as a (?)perceived inflow of Chinese money has been causing housing cost issues in Auckland. If any group have a rough time here it would be the Asian population. It has to be frustrating for them as some of the earliest settlers here in modern times were Chinese.

Have you thought about Europe? It does all those things. Central Europe especially.

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