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I would imagine applying Occam's Razor here would show that there's likely a significant amount of corruption in a program designed to solve something like homelessness. It's JUST vague enough that you can manufacture all sorts of reasons to keep the federal dollars flowing in.

In this case there is likely a limit to what a private business can grow into before it wades into the territory of public utility. A tenuous but related situation can be seen in trademarks where Kleenex has actually run entire ad campaigns to make people call generic tissue "tissues".

There's a larger philosophical argument here. Theoretically speaking there should be no limits to private corporations. However, when your corporation becomes a stable of modern life and the conduit of major utilities of society all of the sudden things start to turn into shades of grey.

Godel's incompleteness theorem might be a better approach to applying logic to faith. You can't prove the existence of God because we have no system above God from which to prove him with. You would think a famous logician like Bertrand Russell would understand this. Though, he did waste a large portion of his career trying to solve the crisis of foundation in mathematics. One would think this experience alone would provide some enlightenment on what faith actually is. Perhaps even geniuses aren't infallible.

Banning someone from your private establishment is within your rights. If they want to run their own business they can elsewhere.

Banning someone via an ISP is different because ISPs have so much infrastructure they can in some sense be considered a "public utility". Nothing would stop someone from advertising ritualistic kitten killing in a public park (except maybe indecency laws but those vary). Likening an ISP to a public park is more accurate. If someone posted a sign saying "no one convicted of smoking weed can walk through this area" you'd rightfully be accused of some civil rights violation in your park. Similarly, ISPs are a conduit no different than a park path.

Everyone chooses KF or whatever as an example of "bad people that should be stopped". That's great. No one disagrees. Anyone with more than a room temperature IQ sees where it goes though. Suddenly you won't be able to access things that don't conform to the government issued public opinion. Don't believe me? The Great Firewall is exactly the same technology.

It is legitimately not my problem, nor the ISPs, who is doing what on the big internet. We have existing laws. Use those to prosecute people posting kitten killing videos or whatever. We do not need to have ISPs using AI and shit as precognitiion to censor what they deem to be "unsafe speech" or whatever.

I see ISPs blocking "mean speech" to "protect people" as another symptom of the enshittification of the internet. I legitimately cannot understand problems in this arena because you can just...walk away from your computer. Or turn off the website. Or hey, maybe don't TIE YOUR ENTIRE LIFE AND REAL IDENTITY TO THE INTERNET. I suspect the prominent use of pseudonyms 30 years ago prevented most forms of ongoing harassment. Narcissists need the validation and so now big brother needs to step in to protect them.

I think society is getting a little too comfortable with the idea of big brother and it's making me really, really uncomfortable. As an old man yelling at a cloud the internet really was better 20 or 30 years ago.

I find it funny that regularly you hear people specifically avoid calling this place a "social network" or "reddit-like". It's a wonderful ode to the dunning-kruger no-coder. There's an implication of pseudo-intellectual superiority in this community that can only be described as the merger of terminally online redditors and big tech. A meta-criticism of the fundamental scoring behavior of this website is met with downvotes and out of the 5 I've received I've gotten 2 comments. Neither explicitly countering my point, and none of them providing the "spirited debate" OP suggests exists here. The website is a hivemind. Period.

Absolutely hilarious. Sometimes points demonstrate themselves. At least slashdot required you to have modpoints. Power tripping terminally online crybullies dominate every website scored by points.

I do not understand the idolization of HN as some bastion of spirited debate and nuance. It is objectively no better than Reddit and subject to the same hivemind mentality. If you want legitimate spirited debate and can learn to ignore trolls removing the voting system would bring HN closer to the fantasy it's readers seem to believe it is. Unfortunately taking away internet points from the terminally online is akin to making an addict go cold turkey. It wouldn't end well.

I'm not afraid of the world. When I am not paid commensurate to the risk I won't take it. If they paid me for the transit time in from home to the office and back I'd be worth $50-60k more. It gets worse with pagerduty. You're on-call and can't take an hour to get home lest there be an incident to need to respond to. So now you're stuck at the office until late at night doing unpaid labor. Driving home tired is a lot of fun too, aint it!

The "drive to work" situation is not only dangerous it's outright wage theft. Why should I want to collaborate.

Anyway, nice strawman.

Dereferencing a void pointer has no meaning. The compiler can do anything it wants because it doesn't know how to interpret the memory. It could give you the correct thing, it could warp a civilization in from a distant planet, or it could open a world-ending black hole. All are equally probable.

Reduced health, of course, because of driving. You can also consider most employers aren't going to stock a full kitchen so you're probably eating more fast food and garbage snacks. You're more sedentary because you typically can't walk out of the office for a quick trip to the gym, etc. Oh, also, your sleep is probably worse because you have to be up 2 hours early to get ready for work and drive.

They'll never stop hiring remote. Remote workers will simply become second class citizens at a company with fewer benefits for the same work. Most people, including myself, will happily sacrifice beer coolers and ping pong for the privilege of never having to deal with an office again.

I do feel bad for people who are coming into the office. I hope those fun events and food are worth the gas money, increased risk, and reduced health going into the office entails.

I don't care what he does with his library. You're right. At the same time you can't "do whatever you want" when you have a 3M+ download library even if you do own it. It would be like if you suddenly decided an entire metropolitan is wrong and you're right. You need A LOT of evidence to do that. There are practical limitations to your personal freedom when so many people depend on you. Even if you want to believe that isn't the case how many potential sponsors, contributors, etc do you alienate with such a stupid idea in a pool of 3M? Even if it's 1% thats 30,000 people who now will do absolutely nothing to help you.

What a tiring argument. Why complain about anything? Why do anything differently? Maybe it's because people have invested time, money, and effort into supporting and using the project and because of your stupid decision they now have to do more work. There were a lot of comments about people showing up that monday to pin+vendor the old SerDe. Others planned to remove it entirely in favor of other libraries. Almost like actions have consequences even if your "license agreement" says otherwise.

> is a rather toxic mindset that should be kept out of open source.

I wish I lived in your echo chamber where everyone who uses your stuff is just totally, like, accepting of your garbage ideas. The precompiled binary idea was a classic garbage idea. Refusing to make it reproducible was just the corn on top of the cowpie. The author made a major screw up, doubled down, tripled down, and then finally gave in. The author has no idea what scale and scope of project this is used in. They also clearly did no evaluation on potential damage OR ask for feedback before moving it into mainline. For a library with 3M+ downloads this was the what third? Fourth? Classic ego-driven folly.

You know what else shouldn't exist in open source? Ego tripping morons.

But yes, these plans (usually deferred interest) are designed to exploit people who are bad with money. They also usually go out of the way to hide how much you're racking up in order to maximize gain. This kind of person thinks "What's another $1000" when their bill is already at $4000. Furniture stores are infamous for this.

More or less. It's the "Worse is Better" philosophy. Instead of adding features to make user experience better make software instead that is good at one thing. It emphasizes minimalism and frugality. You may know the Suckless group from `dwm`.

The problem is Cargo is yet another iteration of the npm-ization (maven-ization?) of code. It requires a BDFL or a team of such BDFLs to proactively police the repos in order to prevent trivial supply chain attacks. Your statement misses the point that not only do people NOT do this it's now trivial to avoid it with Cargo.

This is not the same security risk that is present if you use git submodules and build with a makefile. The key difference is ease of use. Cargo, like NPM and to some extent Maven, are so easy to use you've accidentally created a massive attack surface.

The result will likely be yet another incarnation of JFrog or the like. Code will be audited, built into dylibs, and then pinned via some enterprise supply chain manager. This is a big lift for companies who might otherwise switch to Rust for new projects quicker.

Cargo is my main gripe with Rust almost all the time. So many people say "you can just build manually with rustc!" but this is not true. It's not as simple. Again, it would also be one thing if Cargo was just the package manager but it's also the build management system, test framework, etc. It's the ecosystem. It not only introduces supply chain attacks. It also introduces other attacks directly from the owners such as vengeful removal of packages, changes in CoC that ban certain libraries, etc. I don't like it. Of all package managers, it makes me feel the worst.

I adopt the strategy of "field expedient base" which gets me to almost where I need to be, and then after expanding, I begin building a megabase with more technology and convert the field expedient base to a resource factory. Then I can transport processed resources by train to any number of places.

It's not that annoying once you realize that's kind of how you're supposed to expand. The natural obstacles are a godsend once you start playing on the harder modes.

Water, however, has always been a constant annoyance to me. But I am a purist and refuse to install mods because as far as I can tell the game is basically perfect without them.

Yes without the panopticon people realize the majority of their job is bullshit song and dance to make the PHB happy.

Congratulations on figuring out how to create a massive churn rate among your actual good engineers.

They brought this on themselves being Leadership By Community rather than forming a working group to get a standard out. The reason C and C++ got incredibly popular was two fold:

1. There was really no other choice

2. They were rapidly adopted by a wide variety of people, competition led to standardization, and eventually convergence on a few good compilers. `mrustc` is basically the only alternative and it's only REAL use is for an alternative bootstrap story since Rust bootstrapping is still a problem.

The entire story for Rust is rather pathetic because it would appear at every turn they made the wrong choice despite having a lookback of over 50 years of compiler evolution. Which is sad, because Rust does bring a lot of very nice things.

Because the Rust team doesn't want this path (as in, they are not even entertaining the idea) you're left with a relatively small group of very brave volunteers trying to do their best to be The Standard (TM). The hope was that with adoption from Cloudflare/Amazon/Google/Facebook you'd see a similar standardization story. But it seems none of these groups are interested in the compiler itself and instead are just interested in promoting its use.

Stabilization will be a long term concern. The inclusion in the linux kernel is minimal at best, there are some limited use cases in Asahi, etc. The success of Rust is largely mythical rather than reality. The community at large is extremely vocal to the point of zealotry which also is likely driving people off of helping with the effort. There are a lot of very smart compiler developers in the C and C++ world that don't want anything to do with Rust strictly because of it's community.

Finally, it's also possible companies that may contribute more are being driven away by the politics of the core team. There was an unbelievable discussion on whether they should allow Palantir to continue to work with them because they Do Bad Things (TM). While I can respect their opinion on the subject I cannot respect the general lack of professionalism that you see from the team. While these things don't matter with small languages they do matter a lot with big ones. This lack of professionalism bleeds into every part of the language. It's time we stop talking about Rust like it's a toy language that can get away with being edgy and hip. If it wants to survive it needs to make drastic changes towards a model used by nearly every successful language for the last 50 years.

My conclusion is if Rust wants to succeed it needs to standardize, eject every member of the existing team, and aim for a more professional (e.g. not Mozilla's brand of politics) version of itself. Otherwise it's doomed to hobbytown for the rest of its days and C++ will continue to reign supreme.

Side note:

It's nice to see they dropped the politics for this set of release notes. Maybe they're learning.

Sic semper tyrannis.

You know what happened?

1. I got even more work. So much more that I no longer had the freedom to explore and think.

2. The carrot on the stick would be re-attached to a longer stick. It was never enough. I was performing "exceptionally" but my yearly review would never move me closer to my goal.

3. I would end up getting tied down in a bunch of stuff from (1) that ended up leading to burnout because I was no longer working in a place where I felt useful and needed.

4. I still got laid off.

Now, I just go to work and come home. I am pissed I even have to do pagerduty because 9/10 times the problem is someone wasn't given enough time, creating a bug, which was then subsequently never addressed because aGiLe methodology says you only move forward.

"High power" CEOs and PMP-certified project morons are the reason why people's care for your product ends with their paycheck. No amount of "demo days", "email updates", or metrics will fix it. I, and everyone who is like me, will game your metrics until they stop being useful. It's not malicious. It's an optimization. If you want me to do exactly what your metrics ask I will. Nothing more, nothing less. You pay me for 80 hours a check, you get 80 hours. Nothing more, nothing less. If you don't want me to think I won't. Afterall, I'd rather save my brain cycles for things I enjoy. You're paying me to squander my talent. That's YOUR problem. Not mine.