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seems like a bad law. i won’t ask anyone to risk their lives over a bad law

> But I've also had multiple encounters with bicyclists who feel they are entitled to switch back and forth between a wheeled vehicle moving significantly above normal walking speeds and a pedestrian who just happens to be on a bicycle. Usually with no notice and as is convenient for them. Not infrequently such enhanced-pedestrians can top 20 mph barreling down the sidewalk.

because they can. trying to pigeonhole cyclists as either cars or pedestrians is exactly why so many confrontations occur. its not that a cyclists prefer sidewalks as they are horrible to bike on (bumpy, uneven, inconsistent, obstacled), its that on some roads a distracted driver can mean near certain death. Its not irresponsible, its moving a 20 pound object around 100-200 lb people (if pedestrians cant be avoided) instead of holding their own against 3 ton cages.

Are there douchey cyclists? yes. But just try getting down one block of SF only in the bike lane. You’ll be stuck behind a ups truck or broken muni for days or pop a tire on a broken bottle some hobo left there or get hit in the face with a door.

again showing that socialism causes division and tribalism. i dont want to give more money (currently near half my earnings) to the top 1% of the world (any american on minimum wage) over the current global charities I give to

thanks for trying but HN doesn't want to hear anything but socialist apologia these days.

How is that not clear to you?

Oops, sorry. Hoouse arrest for life and all texts burned. Here are a few executions & persecutions for speech: https://www.wired.com/2012/06/famous-persecuted-scientists/

Really nonrigorous study and no mention of the current body of literature saying the opposite. 92 publicly traded companies is a joke of a sample

399BC - Socrates speaks to jury at his trial: 'If you offered to let me off this time on condition I am not any longer to speak my mind... I should say to you, "Men of Athens, I shall obey the Gods rather than you."'

Socrates was sentenced to death for "corrupting the youth" - an act of speech. Considered by some to be a final nail for ancient athens - who had adored free speech before so much as to name a warship after the concept.

Ancient Athenians adored freedom of speech. Naming a warship after the very concept.

399BC - Socrates speaks to jury at his trial: 'If you offered to let me off this time on condition I am not any longer to speak my mind... I should say to you, "Men of Athens, I shall obey the Gods rather than you."'

1516 - The Education of a Christian Prince by Erasmus. 'In a free state, tongues too should be free.'

In the 1600s, Galileo was executed for mere speech.

> If free speech is being abused to do what we're afraid censorship will do, doesn't that create a contradiction in your logic?

Irrelevant. Limiting speech doesn't solve that contradiction, it only guarantees the worse outcome. More speech solves your proposed "contradiction" just fine.

yup, bias is unavoidable. human rights organizations are obviously biased and not only am okay with that, but I support it.

my point is that anyone who explicitly refused to reprint Benjamin Franklin's writings on the realities of the US because they were declared fake and treasonous deserved to be called censorious and biased against freedom of speech. Mind you, more than a couple of his articles were actual fake news meant to stoke discussion on British policies.

no

so how did Hitler rise? How did freedom of speech treat the West at the time? How did the opposite help Europe?

Benjamin Franklin, a runaway, started his own newspaper - as did his brother - which were called far worse than "fake news" in an "objective" way by the british.

of course they're entitled not to. however, they allow BS they agree with so they must accept that obvious bias will be called obvious bias.

sad to me that people are so quick to dismiss the principles of free speech on the basis that "the game has changed" after thousands of years of human history proving it hasn't.

(inb4 1st amendment is only for the gov - that is a selective truth. the principles of free speech exist outside of government.)

dude. this is not logical. if a system kills less people, we should use it. otherwise, you're just choosing to kill more people for a false sense of authority/security. not only foolish, but i resent that you believe you can make the choice for others.

you are using appeals to authority and emotion rather than the scientific method.

tons of technology is used for lesser marginal gains. no clue where you got this idea from.

could say the same about people "feeling safer" when driving themselves. which is what all the opposing side clings to. (sure isn't statistics)

id imagine the company has web apps (internal and external). why support multiple stacks for what is not even remotely close to their core competency? isomorphism, for example, is a big advantage for both maintainability, community support, and rapid delivery

i never drew an equivalence between muslims and nazi's but go ahead and get offended if you want

i am venezuelan. i hope the non-socialist opposition rises up and takes back their country from a violent, oppressive dictatorship with violence if need be. then i hope they use violence to institute justice for those who have committed crimes against their fellow citizens with impunity for a decade. can i fly my Venezuelan flag upside down? shall i be arrested?

absolutely not. all of those ACTUAL horrible situations involved gross disdain for 1st Amendment principles

so? do you want to forgo the civil rights of muslims on a similar basis? of course not.

because you acknowledge that we should attempt respectful dialogue with the other side (being better than them), he just insinuated you are being an apologist for the 1 psycopath that murdered someone. he just did exactly what you criticized the left for and you get the downvotes... sorry my dude

red shirts vs brown shirts =( and the rest of us get shafted

quite absurd. ill be forgoing my next few donations. (sad that i have to qualify this but i hate nazi's and am not even white)

great answer to this oft repeated nonsense deflection

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