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So I accidentally ended up posting the link to the actual game instead of the "Details page" and that page has some context: https://www.fretboardfly.com/play/FBG-201

"For simplicity 9ths, 11ths and 13ths are considered 2, 4 and 6 respectively"

I posted this to the child comment but here's some context:

I accidentally ended up posting the link to the actual game instead of the "Details Page" of the game so it's kind of an abrupt transition for people without context.

Here's the link to the game with some context: https://www.fretboardfly.com/play/FBG-201

And no, you don't need to "just be better", that's what the app's for: Here's a course to go with the game: https://www.fretboardfly.com/learn/FBG-201

And here's the link to all the games and courses in this series (Intervals/Scale Degrees): https://www.fretboardfly.com/themes/intervallic-functions-gu...

I have similar ones for learning the fretboard notes and I'm building one for scales, triads and chords as well

I accidentally ended up posting the link to the actual game instead of the "Details Page" of the game so it's kind of an abrupt transition for people without context.

Here's the link to the game with some context: https://www.fretboardfly.com/play/FBG-201

And no, you don't need to "just be better", that's what the app's for: Here's a course to go with the game: https://www.fretboardfly.com/learn/FBG-201

And here's the link to all the games and courses in this series (Intervals/Scale Degrees): https://www.fretboardfly.com/themes/intervallic-functions-gu...

I have similar ones for learning the fretboard notes and I'm building one for scales, triads and chords as well

yeah, this came up before when the last time I posted to HN. It seems like a small minority of users are wired differently in how they perceive the fretboard layout :)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36086449

ok, should be fixed

whoops...let me temporarily remove the cookie prompt. There is a "landing page" at the root (www.fretboardfly.com) but I wanted to link directly to the game. Thank you for the feedback. Stay tuned and I'll let you know about the cookie footer

Try going under settings (https://www.fretboardfly.com/settings) and turn on "Front View Fretboard"

Here you go: https://www.fretboardfly.com/learn/FBG-201

When the user browses to it through the home page (https://www.fretboardfly.com/), the game is introduced as a part of a theme of "Scale Degrees" so it's more obvious. Linked to the game directly here because aint nobody got time to click through a page hierarchy :)

my bad, didn't realise I had auth turned on. Just fixed it. Care to give it another shot?

So...instead of clicking/tapping on a screen, just play the guitar with the webcam on

Root goal is to allow this game (https://www.fretboardfly.com/) to be played via a "real life" instrument

The problem is that the same note can be played in multiple string/fret combinations so all it tells me is that the note was played, not "note was played via this string/fret combination"

This is soo cool. Very impressive! Re: collab. I'd love to do something once I don't feel underwater with the stuff on my plate :)

Thank you and keep me posted if you run into problems

FYI now there's a toggle under settings for "Front View Fretboard" that may be helpful. Let me know if it works out for you.

Thank you, I’ll check it out

yeah, this might be the brainier people bias of Hacker News but there's been a lot of requests for alternate tunings. I might just give in and build it one of these days :).

Name a Chord with multiple choice is a great idea. Adding it to the list

Try the practice area, it has no timer and you can select strings and notes to focus on. And stay tuned and sign up for updates if you can, I'll build a kinder, gentler learning module to go with the game

Hey I personally think there's at least a 90%+ transfer rate. Whether thats extreme or not is left to your judgement. When I navigate the fretboard, a LOT of my navigation is done visually (based on the dot inlays, notes from other strings etc). If you want to know how much of your fretboard navigation is visual, try playing a guitar with no inlays and you can quickly find out.

Playing this game is forcing you to use those immediate visual cues to memorize the notes and that part transfers really well. The bit thats missing is

1) The game's perspective is artifical. Noone looks at their guitar like that. Thankfully our brains our fully capable of maintaining spatial orientation while handling perspective shift. You can stand in the middle of Manhattan , look at google maps and translate a squiggly blue line to a 3 dimensional navigation path that looks nothing like it. Fretboard navigation isnt that much different from Manhattan navigation if you think about it.

2) There's a lot that I know about my guitars from just the sense of touch. 4th string 2nd fret (E) feels very comfortable under my fingers. 3rd string 2nd fret (A) does not. The string cuts into my finger because its still thick but its not coiled. The same string on the 12th fret feels very different because of the tension and the raised action. All that sensory data associated with each note is lost when you use a poor facsimile like a computer game to substitute a real world concept. Which is why I view this as a supplement and not a substitution

Microphones...yeah...more work..more complexity for fewer gains IMHO. I view this as app as great for squeezing guitar time when you're without a guitar: Eating lunch at office desk, commuting by train/bus etc. That part gets lost with the microphone business

Anyways, long rant. Let me know what you think

Sorry that was a long rant.

I originally had it so that tapping the correct note used to play the note instead of at the beginning and people requested it this way. Did you have the audio on? I feel like there's two bits of positive reinforcement in place: 1. Your point score appears and floats away 2. A "correct answer" sound plays

What would you change about this? If you replace the "correct answer" sound with the sound of the note, the positive reinforcement sound gets weakened. Because you hear a different sound every time you hit the correct answer. Its like training Pavlov's dog for different bell sounds instead of the same bell sound.

noted, thank you

I would like to finish all the modules for the guitar before I venture into other instruments. The bass so far has been kindof easy..just hide a couple strings :)

yeah, I agree. I'll fix it

oh man...how would that even work for a fretless instrument. Genuine question, not rhetorical

you got it boss...I'll get it done by next week. Check back again in a week and yell at me if it's not done. Any idea what this view should be called? Mirror view? 2nd person fretboard view?

I ran into a lot of problems with vertical mode. Turns out just doing a CSS transform is not enough. It creates a lot of layout problems.

And on the other end, doing it vertical from the ground up would be a ton of work from scratch because of the way it's written

Yeah, its just that I have to pareto-prioritize. The more time I spend on more niche market features, it takes away time from features that 80% of the people want. I'd rather come back around once I have a fully functional product for guitar players and then start serving the custom tunings, the alternate instruments and so on..

How about this one? https://imgur.com/a/yIY13pe Any better?

Good to know, thank you!

By all the notes you mean, _all_ notes on the fretboard? My experience has been that showing all the notes on the fretboard makes it an unreadable mess. Kindof like this: https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/535140c0e4b0ae...