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After all, this is the internet.
No. We don't know their legality. As far as I can tell, there have been pseudo-legal rulings on the subject. But the existence, never-mind the substance, of those rulings are classified. Some people have a problem with that.
> That is YOUR hard earned tax money at work AGAINST YOU.
The guy you're yelling at is a non-US citizen who's point is "for the love of god, you ignorant american, how did you not see what's been happening until now?"
It's completely stupid that this is even a topic on HN, but the worst part is the amount of mindless shitposting going on. I mean, you just replied to a person who starts off with a disclaimer about being a not-american, and your response culimates in righteous but misplaced indignation.
Fooey.
The thing about that is that the government did those sorts of things in the past. When those became public, measures were put into place to check those powers. Some people feel that since 9/11/2001, many of those checks have been continually eroded.
More specifically:
> the logic is to assume that the document applies to all Verizon customers
Given the breadth of this order, it appears that there's no particular thing being investigated. It's just "fishing", ostensibly for national security purposes.
> then to assume that all telecom companies have been given similar documents
Once the government is asking "everything" from a particular company, using national security (as opposed to particularized criminal investigation) as the reason, what reason is there to assume they haven't ordered everyone else to do the same. Don't forget this is a secret order, the subject of which (a Verizon subsidiary) is legally barred from discussing with anyone. The document making the news here was leaked, and the leaker has committed a felony by doing so.
> ... then to assume that they are using that data for malicious purposes
I'm not sure anyone is arguing that they're doing anything malicious ... yet. But history as shown that this particular slippery slope isn't always a fallacy.
> Perhaps the country with the most powerful government in the world should have a little trust in it now and then?
One can, conversely, argue that the citizens of that country have a moral obligation to the rest of the world to keep their government's power in check precisely because it's so powerful.
For most people, back in those days, getting a sufficiently high-quality recording of a live show was prohibitively expensive.
Like Phish, Zappa was very much a cottage industry, unmolested by mainstream music industry stuff after the very early days.
I don't see how that's implied at all. After all, the function is named nl2br, not html2text.
for now
At the end of the day, it's a lot like what's happened to the recording industry. The internet disrupted a long-established model that had been built up around physical artifacts. In the case of sales tax, consumers used to spend most of their money with merchants in their own state. This made it easy to establish and enforce sales and use taxes, because the state government had jurisdiction on both parties to the sale, so they could devise a collection mechanism based around the relatively small number of merchants (as opposed to trying to track the relatively larger number of individual consumers).
In the past 1.N decades, a lot of that economic activity that used to be intra-state has become inter-state. And this has, predictably, caused a very real problem for state governments who depend heavily on those sales/use tax revenues.
Tax reform is absolutely necessary. In this case, the smartest thing is probably to abandon sales taxes in favor of higher state income taxes. The benefit there is that income taxes are more progressive anyway. But the states need to weigh the risk of capital flight.
The other, less palatable, option, is federal intervention. Unlike Colorado, the Federal government does possess the power to regulate inter-state commerce. It's possible that a bunch of states-other-than-california could get federal laws passed that would force merchants in any state to collect and disburse funds to satisfy the sales tax statutes in the purchasers' states.
That latter option would probably end up leading to bad unintended consequences.
I'd rather see the states find ways to replace the lost revenue by abandoning the sales tax and increasing income taxes.
"Prosecutors in this case have stressed that they don't actually require the passphrase itself, and today's order appears to permit Fricosu to type it in and unlock the files without anyone looking over her shoulder."
So the state is arguing that they're not demanding the password, only the plaintext.
Still seems fishy, but it's not clear that it's testimonial.
I suppose one could argue that it's more akin to a judge demanding that you produce the corpse the police have so far been unable to locate.
Better still, as someone else said, it's like the police demanding that you translate notes you wrote down in your own made-up-and-known-only-to-you language.
Of course, such lavish pensions would still create gravity for the self-serving types who just don't think as big.