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Even though I'm deliciously close to 200 karma I'm going to ask this anyway...

If someone has a view that is actually destructive for the forum its aired in ( I'm speaking hypothetically now ) does it have to be accommodated.

By that, and I genuinely want to know what you guys think, what if a political candidate advocated the end of democratic elections? A "one man, one vote, one time" kind of thing. How is that handled in an open society?

Extreme conservative opinions like Mr Yarvins are actually shocking to me. I don't think his particular writings should be banned or anything like that. However, are they so reactionary as to represent to the organizers a position that they don't want to even tacitly or obliquely endorse?

I will say this, the first post on this subject the other day saw me having one of the most interesting exchanges I've ever had on HN. That was cool.

In the 90s when Microsoft was in the same position I agreed with your point regarding Java and a host of other t technology that I thought was unfairly pushed out of the market... The thing is though by the time that remediation under regulation got underway the sea change had already started. Technology is one of the only sectors where that k kind of thing happens.

Another commenter also had a good point about global markets... Apple has that market share in the us... It's actually very small globally.

You make valid points though... Just saying that this stuff moves very fast.

OK. That's freaking awesome. I like seeing FreeBSD technology being brought into the mainstream in OS X. (I don't even use OS X, but this is cool.)

I get that social order was produced in colonial Africa, but you kind of have to ask...for whom? To say that there was strong social order for Africans is probably a stretch. The crimes against them were probably legal in a lot of colonial areas. So while they had fewer public works that were rusting it was probably legal for certain parties to commit rape even at the height of colonial Africa.

Rape maybe one extreme...it was certainly the case that crimes perpetrated by Africans were punished differently.

Same thing for the Southern US ...there were some slaves that chose to stay with their masters, but most of them were ok with the hunger and joblessness that came with emancipation.

Is the question in the end something like...Is a safe and orderly society under a tyranny the same kind of good as self determination in the face of lawlessness? Which one is the greater good? Is that even a meaningful question?

(Keeping in mind, I guess, that these kind of beard scatcher's are the hallmark of liberal western privilege.)

Cheers.

You know what? I see what you mean. I just found that...it's using a windows store app as a test harness.

They should also publish a sample website demo project for the rest of the planet that isn't using 8.1.

Ahhh. Thanks! Very cool of you to drop the link!

When you say you can't open it in anything but Windows 8.1...why would that be the case? There are project files for sublime and vs2013 on github...it's just javascript.

The thing they are doing in 10 where you can publish a regular website in the store is pretty cool, though.

You include some js and a manifest and your site detects if it's running in a store container and gives you access to the device...camera, disk, tpm. That's pretty cool.

I wonder how secure something like that can ever be...but its a neat idea.

That's true...MS has been doing this for phone and windows store apps (the few that there are) that are written in .Net to improve performance. The get AOT'd from CIL to target binary when uploaded to the store.

I wonder why this isn't bigger in the FOSS world...maybe because the source and toolchain are already available...I don't know, it might be a neat idea to have an IR userland that compiles on install.

That's really cool.

I like that idea in general. The other day I was reading about OS/400 on wikipedia. It always used an intermediate bytecode...and because of it they were able to seamlessly (who know how seamlessly) from architecture to architecture.

The whole SDN thing still draws blank looks in enterprise environments. Where I work I'm trying to get the networking team interested in being able to just work on a delivering rock solid transport networks with applications and their associated networks riding on top in overlay's...This particular project is awesome. I think this is the most exciting area in IT right now. I'm still reading through the open vswitch code...

What I mean was that I hadn't heard anything about the Neo-reactionaries for over a year! Damn it with the downvotes!

You aren't trying to say then that the colonial powers assumed control of Africa to stop rape?

If I'm doing a wrong thing should I stop doing that wrong thing even if someone else might do something wrong after I quit?

If you have time, and I completely understand if you don't, could you elaborate on the authoritarianism thing?

Why on earth would that turn out to be a good thing this time?

Is that guy still a thing?

Yeah, that's super cool.

In the 2012 R2 time frame Jeff Snover said that they opened up cmdlet authoring to subsystem teams to use C++ to build cmdlets. Maybe they haven't released it yet?

That may mean that you have to implement at least some part of it as a .Net class. That may mean that they are doing COM components that inherit certain interfaces...it may mean that they are doing PInvoke...to be honest I haven't looked into it. It may be that it's still internal. Huh. I should look that up.

That may very well be...the guy that created powershell always says that Unix is document oriented configuration while windows is API oriented configuration. To do anything in Windows you have to know API's. To be fair someone has to write the code that parses all of those config files in Unix...but I think the over all idea is accurate.

They are changing that with PS Desired State Configuration...if you haven't seen it you should check it out. But you are right...it's coming from a different place than Unix shells.

I agree. No one ever memorizes all of it...or even a common core of it. It's weird like that.

seriously, amazing coding. I have real respect for your skills, even if I don't believe in god and can be kind of a dick in comments.

super dope C skills bro.

EDIT: I started to write something snarky about this guy...I can't. He obviously has a mental illness. He is without a doubt one of the most hardcore C programmers I have ever seen.

I will say that the oracle part of his OS is a random text generator that he interprets as coded messages from god. At least that is what I read in an interview.

if the deserialization mapped to a system wide type system then the methods could be mapped in at that point.

these arguments about unix philosophy, to me, seem to miss the point about what Unix actually is...which, again...to me, is a bunch of tools to get things done.

being able to get things done with Unix means that you just put up with the weird bits and move on. there doesn't need to be an overriding philosophy. there are places where there seems to be consistent concepts, but their implementation isn't and doesn't really need to be consistent.

the way that new ideas get so intensely opposed needs to be really looked at though. there's no need to be so insulting if something isn't a good idea...it just won't get used.

what you end up using in bash is actually the defaults that people have come up with after decades of use.

taking PowerShell straight out of the box isn't that different from running bash with no config file. I use lots of aliases and custom cmdlets to make things smoother for my particular workflow. PS is still pretty new so a lot of that stuff is still being built.

PS will take the text output of any command line program and turn it into .Net strings that can then be manipulated like any other object. You can write PS cmdlets in C/C++, there is an SDK. It will also marshal COM objects into and out of the appropriate .Net types.

When dealing with output from command line apps I usually take the time to parse out the data I want from the strings and turn them into strong types if I'm writing a script...If I'm just trying to get something done with a command prompt I just do whatever gets it done the fastest.

There are some sane defaults in the PS case along with heuristics that try to map arguments between pipe-out and pipe-in cmdlets. The parsing/serialization and formatting are done by the environment, not by an individual program.

It works pretty well. In the end there is also some convention that helps it work more consistently.

In practice, it is kind of cool to be able to construct new objects as the pipeline progresses so that can customize that behavior. I've found that with some aliases for default commands it can be reasonably succinct as well.

That's an interesting point. abstracting out parsing/serialization from the data piped between commands would lead to more consistent argument handling for all commands.

There are some great talks by Theo on different subsystems of OpenBSD on youtube. I would post a link but I'm on a mobile.

Your low opinion of admins is noted. I'm sorry I tried communicating with you. you're a know it all prick.

read this: how bout we just disagree and you leave me alone? there's no need to even reply to this. just leave me alone.

I really wasn't trying to be condescending.

Comparing it to zah/bash and ruby illustrates my point. It's got some fundamental differences to those environments. Providing a common argument parser is one. PowerShell is actually more than a Shell. Its an environment that can be hosted in a shell. That's my point. Commands are actually objects that are processed by the environment. If you get passed the "I know how things are supposed to work" attitude and look at how PS is meant to be used to administer a large number of windows systems you would see that it makes quite a bit of sense.

It is different then what you are used to and probably been using since you were in university. I wasn't rude or mean. I certainly can't be as indignant about things as you are while I'm on HN because of the downvote brigade. But hey, like you guys always say...you're right and I'm wrong because you have karma. Honestly, I tend to be pretty sharp when reacting to people as well so I'm trying to not take things as personally.

But your appeal to authority doesn't scare me...I've used stuff for a long time too. I just don't think that I'm better than other people because of it.