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stevoyoung

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Founder and CEO of Atrack (www.atrackapp.com). Based in San Antonio, TX. @stevoyoung / @atrackapp
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stevoyoung··on Spec work: for looser managers and employees.
I agree, "challenge projects" is closer to what I am talking about.

To be clear, I not debating that it isn't useful for the employer. If the employee gets to interact with the team (which I think is rare) it could be useful for the employees too. I'm just suggesting that it's not necessary and the upside leans heavily on the employers side.

Why can't you bring in an existing design / engineering problem into the interview and discuss it. This would give you more than enough insight into someone's technical chops and problem solving ability. I've done it when interviewing people and it's worked wonders. These types of conversations also gives you much more info on a candidate.

stevoyoung··on Spec work: for looser managers and employees.
>"Many people don't have this. And why would they: it's hard to evaluate a candidate via bits of random code and half finished projects which took their fancy, that they worked on on their own."

I do agree with everything here except "why would they". I have tons of old, unfinished, half baked code /designs lying around. I wouldn't show any of it to a future employer. What I would show them is something that I took real time and effort to do. Often time that's something for my self, an open source contribution or refactoring a side project to make it "usable". This takes a lot of time. But if you ever want to be in the position of choosing who you work for this is needed. That's all that I'm suggesting. The alternative is 6+ hours of spec work for every job you want to get. Which is mostly not reusable because it's company specific.

>"That's right. It's fucking impossible to evaluate someone based on an interview (there have been hundreds of posts to HN on this topic in the last few years). Existing work is hit-and-miss."

I mostly agree. I think multiple interviews with multiple people and talking through problems and design/development problems can greatly reduce the gap of it being hit-and-miss. I'm also not suggesting this is cheap to do (for both employee and employer). But hiring someone or starting a new job should require a lot of investment on both sides.

> " ...with the caveat that _we pay for it_. If you're serious about interviewing this person, paying their day rate for a day of their time is a reasonable way to ask people to do this."

I wish more folks did this. You obviously take hiring seriously. I bet you have many sold folks at your place.

stevoyoung··on Spec work: for looser managers and employees.
First off, I agree, my spelling sucks. Oh well, let's move on. Oh and I'm a looser, I'm good with that too. +1 for you, Mr. Cool.

Secondly, saying the ABA ask for "spec work" is like saying college ask for "spec work". You have to do it to be in the profession. It's an exam, it's mandatory to be in the field. Spec work for developers / designers is not.

>"Doctors and lawyers do not need spec work because of professional licenses/certifications."

That's my point exactly, thanks for agreeing with me. Designers and developers lack any real formal "licenses/certifications". Their public work should take the place of "licenses and certifications". That's why you should hire them - not because they got suckered into doing 6 hours of spec work for you.

stevoyoung··on Ask HN: What's your computer setup?
2011 MBP high res matt display, magic mouse, laptop lap stand. Nothing to fancy.
stevoyoung··on Free beautiful UI elements for developers
lol
stevoyoung··on Having fun with lawyers - Freetail Brewing Cease and Desist response.
lol...good one.
stevoyoung··on Take me to Silicon Valley: 19 year old designer seeking opportunity
Stay classy HN. What the hell were you all doing during christmas and new years when he was doing this? Give the kid some credit - he has more drive than most people I know...and by the way, what does your resume look like?
stevoyoung··on JQuery Shutters Plugin Site
I would volunteer to help curate the plugins. However, to be clear, I didn't necessarily mean manually curate them. You all can simply create a mechanism for the community to curate them (vote up/down, track number of downloads, reviews etc). When I said you all aka jquery.com, I simply meant that it will be controlled on your domain - not that you have to give more of your time.

With that being said, thank you for giving your time freely to help grow the community. I think I speak for most when I say, I appreciate it.

stevoyoung··on JQuery Shutters Plugin Site
Finally. It would be great for the end user and plugin authors if they (jquery.com) curates the plugins themselves. I'm sure a lot more exploration will happen on their site vs scouring the web. I know I've never relied on their old plugin site to find anything.
stevoyoung··on Can Erick Schonfeld Keep the Techrunch Swagger Alive?
The editor in chief doesn't need to be the center of attention, I agree. BUT in TechCrunch's case he was. Mike had a swagger about him and how he wrote - which I think helped define how the others wrote. I think that's a big part of what made TC what TC is. So in this case, I think it does matter. Can Erick change how the ship is run and still be successful? Sure, but it's going to be hard.

BTW, I wasn't clear in my original post. My post was in reference to how both articles were written, not about the content. Swagger vs no swagger.

stevoyoung··on Can Erick Schonfeld Keep the Techrunch Swagger Alive?
http://techcrunch.com/2011/09/28/real-journalism-venturebeat...

VS

http://uncrunched.com/2011/09/28/venturebeat-needs-to-put-on...

I do not think he can.

stevoyoung··on How to invite people to Google+
I'll take on too, please. _______ gmail.com

Got it. Thanks, Gerard.

stevoyoung··on BankSimple: A Bank That Doesn't Suck
You basically have to be P&C eligible to use deposit @ mobile / home. To be P&C eligible you need to be military or spouse / child of military.
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