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starfallg··on Show HN: Bento - An entire PowerPoint in one HTML file (edit+view+data+collab)
I checked it out and it looks cool. It's a much more general platform than Bento. If you can make it do presentations, I'm sure the actual quality of the output would be better than Bento as it's React as compared to reveal.js.
starfallg··on Show HN: Bento - An entire PowerPoint in one HTML file (edit+view+data+collab)
Yeah, unless you were using the guestbook which was being hammered, I'm afraid you are right. I use Firefox, but it's not my main browser and I must confess I didn't do much testing on it. I'll have to look to see how we can improve performance on FF.
starfallg··on Show HN: Bento - An entire PowerPoint in one HTML file (edit+view+data+collab)
I used Opera for a while, but I didn't recall it doing this. Do you have a link to show what it was able to do?
starfallg··on Show HN: Bento - An entire PowerPoint in one HTML file (edit+view+data+collab)
Thanks! As a avid user of draw.io, I considered this model, but ultimately I thought that it's best to start with a single local file. Maybe later when people ask for enterprise-type features it'd make sense to host it. It's definitely needed to do stuff like SSO.
starfallg··on Show HN: Bento - An entire PowerPoint in one HTML file (edit+view+data+collab)
I thought about make it a PWA, but I'm still on the fence about hosting in general. Will probably have to host in order to deal with enterprise use-cases, but I just want to make something simple and cool for now. Thanks for the feedback, will explore a bit about what people will want in a hosted solution and how it can keep these principles I think makes it special.
starfallg··on Show HN: Bento - An entire PowerPoint in one HTML file (edit+view+data+collab)
Exactly what we've seen in our company. A lot of techies create these awesome web-app presentations which look awesome and wows everybody, but then some poor person that has Claude but not Claude Code (we somehow decided it was only for techies/SWEs) would then be scratching their heads on what to do because some figures are wrong and they need to update it before the very-important-steerco in the afternoon.
starfallg··on Show HN: Bento - An entire PowerPoint in one HTML file (edit+view+data+collab)
I like a bit of good gossip. If you're based in London, let's go out for a beer.
starfallg··on Show HN: Bento - An entire PowerPoint in one HTML file (edit+view+data+collab)
I'm a bit worried on the UX on mobile, so I did some testing to get at least the basic working! Video also worked better than expected, I love how the video background in the Orbital deck turned out! Thanks for the feedback!
starfallg··on Show HN: Bento - An entire PowerPoint in one HTML file (edit+view+data+collab)
Thanks! I hope it's good and practical enough to be actual useful (and used regularly by pepole).
starfallg··on Show HN: Bento - An entire PowerPoint in one HTML file (edit+view+data+collab)
Thanks, people asked about monetization but seriously Github stars is really all it's about.
starfallg··on Show HN: Bento - An entire PowerPoint in one HTML file (edit+view+data+collab)
Hehe, if we go in the other direction we can call it basepoint.
starfallg··on Show HN: Bento - An entire PowerPoint in one HTML file (edit+view+data+collab)
That's a great point. I went down the state slide route in order to handle a similar type of use-case, but I'll look into this and see if we can incorporate that somehow. It seems like a really elegant way to implement some state slide use cases. And thanks for the heads-up on this!
starfallg··on Show HN: Bento - An entire PowerPoint in one HTML file (edit+view+data+collab)
Thanks! I'm not familiar with pandoc but I think you can get some data out of the Bento JSON but is not going to be very rich. May be easier to render it to PDF (which works well in Chrome) first.
starfallg··on Show HN: Bento - An entire PowerPoint in one HTML file (edit+view+data+collab)
Just an update to this phone home issue. I haven't found anything showing that this should be normal behaviour. I'm thinking this may be due to cloudflare challenges due to the traffic spike. In addition to the DO, the whole website sits behind a Cloudflare proxy.

Will keep chipping away at this and update as I learn more.

starfallg··on Show HN: Bento - An entire PowerPoint in one HTML file (edit+view+data+collab)
Yup, I'm trying to see if we can add arbitrary JS. I think it may be possible, but would take a bit longer to test out different approaches. However I guess the main target audience for this is coders that interact with non-coders when doing presentations, and I think currently this approach is sufficient.
starfallg··on Show HN: Bento - An entire PowerPoint in one HTML file (edit+view+data+collab)
Yeah, upgrades are pretty seamless so far as the JSON format for the slide data is pretty forgiving. You can also export and reimport the data. It's in the split pill next to Save.
starfallg··on Show HN: Bento - An entire PowerPoint in one HTML file (edit+view+data+collab)
You are right, but I guess a lot of people recognise PowerPoint as a brand. Maybe I can bill this as better-than-powerpoint!
starfallg··on Show HN: Bento - An entire PowerPoint in one HTML file (edit+view+data+collab)
Thanks! If you need anybody to test and feedback, I'll give it a go.
starfallg··on Show HN: Bento - An entire PowerPoint in one HTML file (edit+view+data+collab)
Thanks! I had to reset the guestbook because it's being spammed. It's on epoch 4 now, hopefully people will be better behaved moving forward!

1. Yes, that's a good point that somebody else raised also. It went pass testing as I was only testing with 1 or 2 other people at once. Will fix this tonight.

2. Yeah, agreed and fair point. But I don't write well and I don't have time between day job and being a dad. Will try to fix this gradually.

starfallg··on Show HN: Bento - An entire PowerPoint in one HTML file (edit+view+data+collab)
Thanks! That's a really good point. I used Cloudflare DO as it was elegant and convenient, but no reason why we can't run a small daemon to handle the same. I'll work on this later in the week.
starfallg··on Show HN: Bento - An entire PowerPoint in one HTML file (edit+view+data+collab)
Thanks! It's also my first submission to HN after reading and commenting on here for the last 7 years!
starfallg··on Show HN: Bento - An entire PowerPoint in one HTML file (edit+view+data+collab)
Thanks for raising that. It might be in the standard cloudflare/actors SDK I used for Cloudflare Durable Objects. I'll try to disable this behavour and if we couldn't, we'll rip out DO and replace it with something that doesn't phone home. Apologies I wasn't thorough enough here.
starfallg··on Show HN: Bento - An entire PowerPoint in one HTML file (edit+view+data+collab)
The slide resume behaviour is definitely a bug, I'll take a stab at it shortly.

The swipe left on first slide is a feature though, its to help mobile users get back to the editor easily.

starfallg··on Show HN: Bento - An entire PowerPoint in one HTML file (edit+view+data+collab)
Aw man! Well it is very different to what BentoPDF is doing. I'm sure nobody would get confused!
starfallg··on Show HN: Bento - An entire PowerPoint in one HTML file (edit+view+data+collab)
The slideshow button is a split pill, you can open it there where there is this tiny up arrow that opens up a drop down menu. But on tablet it probably doesn't do what you want it to as it was built for multi-screen use on the desktop.

I'll have a think on this tonight and I'm sure we can do a tablet speaker notes mode.

starfallg··on Show HN: Bento - An entire PowerPoint in one HTML file (edit+view+data+collab)
Thanks, you're right, that is the achilles heel. Most of the functionality actually is in the browser. We're just running fancy scripting on it.
starfallg··on Show HN: Bento - An entire PowerPoint in one HTML file (edit+view+data+collab)
Thanks for the feedback, that's a really good idea! I'll try to roll it out shortly!
starfallg··on Show HN: Bento - An entire PowerPoint in one HTML file (edit+view+data+collab)
If you have a backend that does processing, I'm sure you can monetise it. But for Bento, the whole idea is to forgo the backend, so I didn't really think about it that much. If an enterprise version comes, I'm sure there is a way to integrate stuff like SSO that you can charge for.
starfallg··on Show HN: Bento - An entire PowerPoint in one HTML file (edit+view+data+collab)
Thanks. That would be a cool feature, and definitely possible. Currently it's already got a feature where you can export and import it's data JSON. We just need to find a way to squeeze a whole frontend in.
starfallg··on Show HN: Bento - An entire PowerPoint in one HTML file (edit+view+data+collab)
Thanks! It's a project I did in my spare time and it's made with a lot of MIT licensed JS libraries, so it's natural to make this MIT licensed as well. I don't know even know how anybody would start to monetise something local-first like this in this day and age.
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