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I have a pet theory that the visual cortex when developing is linked to some kind of mechanism such as this. You just need proteins that create some sort of resonating signal that feed into the neurons as they grow (obviously this is hand-wavy) but similar feedback loops guide nervous system growth in Zebra fish for example.
If you are NYTimes and publish poisoned data to scrapers, the only thing the scraper needs is one valid human subscription where they run a VM + automated Chrome, OCR and tokenize the valid data then compare that to the scraped results. It's pretty much trivial to do. At Anthropic/Google/OpenAI scale they can easily buy VMs in data centers spread all over the world with IP shuffling. There is no way to tell who is accessing the data.
This seems unintuitive to me. The sun is a million miles in diameter, so surely shrinking that to zero would lower the amount of gravitational force infinitesimally since the gravity is 1/distance^2 not linear. I would think the planets would sort of drift ever so slightly farther.
Worth a read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperstition
I think he’s wrong that OpenAI can win this by upping the revenue engine through ads or through building a consumer behavior moat.
At the end of the day these are chat bots. Nobody really cares about the url and the interface is simple. Google won search by having deeply superior search algorithms and capitalizing on user traffic data to improve and refine those algorithms. It didn’t win because of AdWords … it just got rich that way.
The AI market is an undifferentiated oligopoly (IMO) and the only way to win is by having better algos trained on more data that give better results. Google can win here. It is already winning on video and image generation.
I actually think OpenAI is (wrongly) following Ben’s exact advice — going to the edge and consumer interface through things like the acquisition of things like Jony Ives device company. This is a failing move and an area where Google can also easily win with Android. I agree with Ben that upping the revenue makes sense but they can’t do it at the cost of user experience. Too much at stake.
Understand just means “parse language” and is highly subjective. If I talk to someone African in Chinese they do not understand me but they are still conscious.
If I talk to an LLM in Chinese it will understand me but that doesn’t mean it is conscious.
If I talk about physics to a kindergartner they will not understand but that doesn’t mean they don’t understand anything.
Do you see where I am going?
The argument that computational complexity has something to do with this could have merit but the article certainly doesn’t give indication as to why. Is the brain NP complete? Maybe maybe not. I could see many arguments about why modern research will fail to create AGI but just hand waving “reality is NP-hard” is not enough.
The fact is: something fundamental has changed that enables a computer to pretty effectively understand natural language. That’s a discovery on the scale of the internet or google search and shouldn’t be discounted… and usage proves it. In 2 years there is a platform with billions of users. On top of that huge fields of new research are making leaps and bounds with novel methods utilizing AI for chemistry, computational geometry, biology etc.
It’s a paradigm shift.
I personally think Ayahuasca gives an amazing capacity to see the potential within the universe and within ourselves... it is nearly infinite. However if you deeply understand the world and how mis-aligned it and yourself are from that potential it can create tragedy. If you believe you are responsible for this tragedy it can create catastrophe. I don't mean to over-extend my own experiences too far.
What if there is a book that when you read it you would know for 100% certainty when you die there is no hell, and only infinite peace, unless you wanted to go back into hell. Should everybody read that book?
That's what taking Ayahuasca felt like for me. I don't think it is great to do for everyone. I'm curious to hear your thoughts as you have much more experience than me. I had a lot of challenges after taking it.
Another example is famine, it may be advantegous to store visceral fat in a low food environment, but if the famine ends, the next generation is more likely to carry this "advantage" which is now negative: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S216183132...
I'm just saying there is a pretty big hypocricy. Calling Hamas anti-semitic etc. while sending these drones to fascist neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine. It is a tiny tiny group, but the Azov brigade was celebrated in the media while holding these views.
My basic point (which you never refuted) is that Israel/Palestine is fundamentally more relevant than Sudan to American citizens because our government is deeply entangled in supporting one side of it, and is influenced by the Israeli gov't.
The famous god is dead quote paints the image of the madman screaming into “the market” that god is dead, no one knows, and it will take centuries to wash away the blood, that we’ve unchained the earth from the sun.
I think Nietzsche would view capitalists, industrialists and technocrats / technology idealists through very much the same lens as those “people in the market”… aloof, dumb, and completely with their head in the sand.
I think he’d view AI largely in the context of “what kind of soil” it provides within society for accomplishing the task of self conquest.
On further reflection I do think there is some opportunity to embody a notion of this into AI. Like AI needs to help humans with self mastery and understanding while divorcing them from the status quo.