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> That's a great question.

People have been asking this for a couple of years already. I have yet to hear a real answer beyond "We'll cross that bridge when we get to it."

I come from the same era. Learning new languages and frameworks is nowhere near the same ballpark as having the whole ground your business was built on pulled out from under you when it comes to "just pivot."

Well as someone who got a ton of value out of tutorials and would go back to the documentation and "just do it," I wonder how much this is really actually just LLMs as we're all seeing out sites bombarded with bots ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Just ALT+F4 on shitty tech, which is most of it. Ditching your smartphone is a small but good start.

You could always do an, ahem, internet search to find out ;) There are examples out there.

Look up "Xerox sue over name use."

I have no idea who owns the Kleenex and Saran Wrap brands and what they are like (I know it's a quick internet search away ;)), but they aren't using their products to track my every move, so it doesn't feel like it's as much of a problem.

I've been doing this for a couple of years now and sometimes am That Guy and brings it up if someone keeps saying "google."

It's also way past time to ditch Google (Noun), though that's an even harder sell. But, you should still do it.

> And then they will keep using your digital drugs like nothing happened and forget about the whole thing. So watch out, executive!

Not only this, many will continue to help the company by bullying anyone who decides to stop using the drugs.

You're both, which is why none of this makes sense and is yet somehow "inevitable."

Not hurt, just confused, lol. Though reading back, I can pinpoint the spots where we misunderstood each other. But there is little point in revisiting at this stage!

In any event, peace!

> I saw you identify as gen X then assign responsibility to the successor of gen X

I said:

> I'm an elder millennial (Xenial, really)

I’m a millennial. I could have left it at “elder millennial” I suppose. “Xenial” is a micro-generation, which is a searchable term.

> if generations raging on each other is bullshit then im not sure why generations were brought up at all

Because the original user, Huarache1, that you were responding to that prompted my response brought them up.

> u could come up with some plans too if u wanted ...

At this point it seems you have decided you just don’t like me and are looking for reasons to continue not to like me. That’s fine, you are a stranger on the internet, though odd because we’re fighting the same fight. And for the record, I really like your anger.

Also for the record, I told you what I’m currently doing, never insinuated that I had ever stopped thinking of things to do, and asked if you had any ideas yourself which you threw back in my face (in two different ways at that), so this is a pretty futile conversation.

A truly sincere good luck to you, though!

> Uh, it was heavily marketed towards us, too.

Absolutely it was. It was also quite different in the beginning, though. Many people saw facebook as a photo-sharing site and a way to exchange stupid, public-facing messages. Remember a year or so after the news feed introduced and fb messaging was just becoming a thing (no dedicated app yet) and people started freaking out that their "private" messages were now public when really it was just stuff they had written on each others "walls" that in everyone's minds (with not fault to them) was private to their friend group?

> And it was a godsend to those of us stuck at home in suburban hell,

Very fair so ya, my life-long city-boyness is showing.

No need to be so confrontational. I also saw a bunch of your edits so full disclosure I'm trying reconcile what I read before with your edits so apologies if I get mixed up.

> you are blaming the kids who had their brains destroyed by your generation?

I'm curious as to what part of my post makes you think I'm blaming kids (today) when I explicitly said it's my generation that has a lot of blame. I thought I was pretty clear on that, going as far as to say I think generations ragging on each other is bullshit.

Non-tech people of my generation were also victims to a degree, though at the same time there were a lot, and I mean a LOT of us who HATED social media and avoided it for as long as they could. Unfortunately, I can't count myself as one of them.

You're also making the assumption that I'm sitting passively doing nothing about it. I don't do MUCH, but I have been removing a lot of tech from my life, and I talk about it with people, including younger people. I ditched my smartphone eight months ago, I give my money to as few big tech companies as possible (this includes all the "AI" companies), I don't use anything by Google other than YouTube, as well as some artist ventures. I know it's not much, but I'm a nobody. If you have any other ideas how I can do more, I'm open to listening.

Anyway, your experience at the DJ event is exactly what my Gen X'er friend was describing to me the other day (then I read about it online). She was at a work event and said the "older" folks were all dancing while the younger ones were standing around looking at their phones.

Oh, also my comment around "I hope things get better" is that I've heard that a lot of younger people are indeed ditching their phones and social media, but none that I know (and being 45 without children, I don't exactly interact very often with anyone younger than ~30).

EDIT: I think I got it, is it that I said "I think Millennials have a lot of blame on their shoulders" which makes I sound like I was blaming Gen Z and below? Really my intent there. That is the phenomena of assuming anyone successful and obviously adult is older than me and therefore, not part of my generation. In my mind, Zuck is like 10 years older than me when in reality he's three years younger.

From what I understand, current younger generations won't dance because they are terrified of being recorded. I'm don't know how rampant this is, but if true it's really sad. Dancing poorly is one of life's greatest pleasures (and really good exercise too boot!). While I absolutely despise "generation wars," the smartphone really did a number on... well, all of us. I hope more people start to ditch them.

EDIT: I actually don't really know what Huarache1 is really talking about. I'm an elder millennial (Xenial, really) and we were plenty hedonistic, just a little safer about it, so it could be the case of younger people relegating anyone they deem old to be a "boomer." I think Millennials have a lot of blame on their shoulders for being so willing to make social media such a huge part of our lives.

Interesting. I don't know enough about NAM as I haven't cared too much. I know of it from watching Glen Fricker, an online persona I enjoy but don't blindly follow by any means (I'm not even a metal musician, even though I played in a metal band for a few years).

I've never really moved on from the, uh, actual amplifier. What's the point of amplifying an extremely imperfect instrument if you aren't going to use an imperfect, defective, amplification device?

Obviously lots of people will disagree with me and will take my previous statement as some kind of law I'm trying to lay out. Do what you want. Pristine sounds can be converted in cold hard cash, I get it.

Uh, that's actually all I've got.

Yes, just delete it. Seriously. WTF is that? Loved the general vibe but hit the back button after a visceral to... f*ckin' Product Hunt? Seriously?

Crazy times, man.

It doesn't support interactive commands. For example if you run a command that asks for input before finishing, it gets swallowed.

Tree-sitter is more performant for sure, and its potential for easier text objects is nice. However, Vim's syntax engine is more than good enough for non-complex highlighting (and many people don't want complex highlighting) and, while I don't have enough tree-sitter knowledge to explain this myself, I've seen examples of Lua versions of Vim plugins where tree-sitter is unable to handle some of the regex-based text objects present in the vimscript version.

As far as really cool uses for tree-sitter go, ast-grep is a fantastic tool. Of course it's a standalone program, so it doesn't need nvim to make use of it.

Nvim's `:!` behaviour was a deliberate design decision, which is one of the reasons I just stick with Vim9.

The linked article explains this. Although there is a very easy way around this: don't use AI for writing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ At least not "frontier" models.

Ha, I could talk about this framing for days as I think about it a lot.

To add some points on he other side of this analogy:

There is not a lot of purely electronic music that has stood the test of time, at least not when it comes to popularity or, more relevant to the metaphor, profitability. There is usually at very least a human voice in the (literal) mix, but more often than not there are also traditional instruments mixed in.

Take this next point as you will as I am being a bit tongue-in-cheek: While making music-making more accessible to more people is totally great, if I could go a week without hearing a variation of the phrase "Check out my dark ambient drone project!" I would feel oddly accomplished.

Most importantly, though:

> But give it a week of practice and most of your skill comes back.. and in 1 month you're back to your peak skill.

This is only true if you had the skill to begin with. For many electronic musicians, by which I mean junior developers, this is not the case. Does it matter? As a 45-year-old traditional musician... er, I mean hand-coder... I think so, but also ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Although if it doesn't get fixed, it also sometimes becomes a feature.

OHHHHHH lol yes, agreed.

I'm pretty sure you're just experiencing the, uh, I don't know the name for it, but the voices you are in disagreement with feel amplified. There is also a HUGE pro-AI sentiment on this platform which feels extremely loud to me.

Not sure what you mean. HN comments certainly have influence on others' perceptions of different kinds of tech. I can't point you to hard data other than "advertising works." I know I'm susceptible to it.

It would not surprise me in the least if people were paid to boost on HN.

Ha, fair! It was an example off the top of my head and used based on my experience of how vegans talk, but yes, it's not a perfect example. But then if we're going down the rabbit hole then nothing is really absolute when it comes to what we should and shouldn't do. An actual software example would have been better:

"Avoid strong coupling between modules" v. "Never upload raw keys to a git server."

> then why are you participating in the AI bubble?

I think you know that most software engineers don't have a choice if they value their employment. There was no industry-wide push to "participate in blockchain or be fired."

I'm with you, and was also a bit surprised to see that coming from Fowler.