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If this method actually removed a significant percentage of scam ads, rather than just heading off scrutiny, then a) doing proper verification wouldn't cost them $2b a year like they claim it would, and b) their quarterly revenues would be taking a meaningful (single digits %) hit and the share price would suffer.
I'm eagerly waiting for the day when the elderly people in my family swear off the internet entirely.
Sure, the LLM fills in all the boilerplate and makes an easy-to-use, reproducible tool with loads of documentation, and credit for that. But is it not more accurate to say that Simon is absurdly efficient, LLM or sans LLM? :)
I have a lot that I'd love to share (and let's... charitably... assume it's worthwhile stuff) but would be afraid to start just because of this stumbling block.
Throughout this post I’ll assume the average ChatGPT query uses 0.3 Wh of energy, about the same as a Google search used in 2009.
Obviously that's roughly one kilowatt for one second. I distinctly recall Google proudly proclaiming at the bottom of the page that its search took only x milliseconds. Was I using tens-hundreds of kW every time I searched something? Or did most of the energy usage come during indexing/scraping? Or is there another explanation?(Not a tech worker, don't have a horse in this race)
LLM output is inherently an expression of the work of other people (irrespective of what training data, weights, prompts it is fed). Essentially by using one you're co-authoring with other (heretofore uncredited) collaborators.
(Overgeneralising a bit) site owners are mostly cting for public benefit whereas scrapers act for their own benefit/for private interests.
I imagine most people would land on team site-owner, if they were asked. I certainly would.
P.S. is the best way to scrape fairly just to respect robots.txt?
I do wonder, if you (and the commenter you replied to) think this is a good thing, will you be OK with a data center springing up in your neighbourhood, driving up water or power prices, emitting CO2? Then if SOTA LLMs become efficient enough to run on a smartphone will you be OK with a data center bailout coming from your tax dollars?
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