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Humans have overcome a number of hurdles, but to say we are immune to the same pressures is just hubris.

Already populations are declining in wealthy countries, what will happen in JApan in 50 years? No one knows because it's never happened to such a wealthy technologically advanced country.

Food cost spiked several times in the 2000s leading to food riots and was a likely catalyst of the Arab Spring.

World fishing stock is over exploited and total world wild catch has flat lined the last 5 years, aquaculture has made up the difference but that is an entirely new area and the environmental effects are uncertain.

Technology may save us, but blind optimism is no different than baseless pessimism.

Global climate change is happening, no one knows how fast or have massive those changes will be, we just know it's happening. From a geological perspective we are already living through a mass extinction event, our influence has been profound and will be seen for millions of years in the fossil record.

Add in age related benefits and median income by age, and it is undeniable that the older generations suck the productivity and wealth from the younger like vampires.

Are we immune? Maybe, but looking at the pass 100 years and concluding we are is simply self deception.

"Still, eventual resumption of the phone records program in another form, and the other government powers, appeared likely after the Senate voted 77-17 to take up the reform legislation, called the USA Freedom Act.

"This bill will ultimately pass," Paul acknowledged after the procedural vote."

They bury the lead.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/may/27/corporations...

Americans, your country is open for business and for sale, and rather cheap as well.

Was he convicted of this charge you speak of? No. And who really cares what the legal system decides, it is an utter farce.

Moderators essentially do not want political and community discussion.

I really think this is a cruel waste of peoples time, and HN should strongly reconsider this method of moderation.

EDIT: Down votes for telling someone they are hell banned? Pathetic.

The LD50 was extensively document, your claim is essentially vodoo.

Torture people for the government and you dont even get a warning.

How do people continue believe they live in a society governed by law? It governed by naked, corrupt power.

Lots of nostalgic 80s TV, movie, and video game sampling.

Here's a play list for those interested:

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL52109BD7632583B2

If the current war began 2001-9-11 that would be 14 years not 15. You are wrong.

Classified documents are meaningless, I have a classified document that is proof I am God. See, how stupid you sound?

If you believe American is beholden to democratic concerns you are either a troll or hopelessly naïve.

Anyone who isn't upset that they live in a country which repeatedly kills civilians without cause is a monster.

It might work once, and put off such laws until the next month or the next election, but those with the vested interest have the time, money, influence, and power to see these laws passed eventually.

The government is no longer concerned nor responsive to the common good.

The only real way to fight these laws are to ignore them and to repeatedly break then. To resist arrest and to challenge the status quo with trying to overplay their hand and oppresse people like the true tyrants they are.

What do you call 14 years of war in multiple theaters resulting in hundreds of thousands of deaths? It that not fanatical? You should reassess your heart, you're in need of a new one.

The US is no longer a country ruled by law. If anything the more ridiculous and barbaric the government becomes the better as it will only swell the ranks of those who realize the government is illegitimate.

'Sloppy' seems the wrong word to use to me.

My point is they are both so bad that saying one is really really bad is like Dante discussing why the third circle of Hell isn't as bad as the fourth. Pointless academic nonsense, except the jingoistic RaRa America nonsense is killing hundreds of thousands of civilians.

Now this comment depresses me. Why not compare the us patriot act or civil forfeiture, or the wide spread illegal 4th amendment breaking mass surveillance program a whistle blower had to reveal (who incidentally lives in Russia now).

Then you use the phrase hope and change, is that satire, a man became president lying with that platform slogan.

How about including torture, indefinite imprisonment without trial, or kill lists to show how the US also has erroded civil liberties?

How much more comic book evil does the American empire need to become before people stop defending it with 'Russia and China are worse', maybe they are, but its a sad pissing match to ask if Mao or Hilter was the worst 20th dictator, both men caused tremendous amounts of Human misery.

Why do people want to defend a military that has killed hundreds if thousands of civilians? How morally bankrupt are the techies of hacker news.

Maybe that is just the world we live in, at least except it and stop trying to glorify the killing of women and children for profit.

Go read Obama's Cairo speech, do impassioned, if only he believed in his own words.

No, instead we watched a people overthrow a corrupt regime, establish a democracy, and then continued to fund the mitary junta and ignore the country as it becamenobce more a dictatorship which just recently sentenced its former president to death.

Egypt, neighbor to Israel, and the largest secular middle Eastern country by population is too important to the supposed US political interest to allow democracy, especially if that democracy doesn't agree with our policies. It is entirely morally bankrupt, anyone who defends such policy is a warmonger.

How nationalistic do you have to be to believe there aren't Russian or Chinese tech forums?

America had an amazing run 1950-2000, comparable or even superior to the miraculous breakthroughs which happened in Germany from 1900-1945, that didn't make Germany above reproach, in fact it confused the moral with the technical, which you are doing right now.

Fascist.

The same is true for Russia, if Russian-Canadian relations are tense that's not as nearly important as whether its neighbor Ukraine is bombing civilians on its border.

America is not exceptional, your argument requires we treat America and Russia with different moral thresholds, that's insane.

I was never claiming the US has committed genocide, I simply asked how many deaths do you need to define one. WWII killed 6 million Jews, were only about an order of magnitude away and our current war has now gone on longer with no end in sight.

EDIT: I'm using _your_ definition dude, I don't think it is genocide, yet, but by your definition it certainly is.

Get off your myopic high horse, both the US and Russia are imperial empires bathed in blood.

An entire generation is coming to age knowing only war. Sounds like systematic destruction of a significant racial, religious, and national group to me.

Iraq as a country is dust, so too Libya, Syria is also soon to follow. Sounds like genocide by your definition.