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ryes··on Show HN: A new search engine UX I've been working on in my free time
Thank you! It is like tweetdeck. I forgot about that site. Will be looking at it more for any ideas...

Swurl is using Google search right now... so you could just change your default search to Swurl :) Would love the support

ryes··on Show HN: A new search engine UX I've been working on in my free time
Thank you for the detailed feedback marginalia_nu!

Yes I agree search UX has not been evolving much. I wish it would.

What version of Windows and what browser are you using? How old is the computer? Maybe it is something I could improve. I was figuring most modern computers can scroll horizontally well, but that isn't always the case. But I guess I am trying to push the design into the future...

ryes··on Show HN: A new search engine UX I've been working on in my free time
Thank you for the encouragement!

Yes the UX could be used for other search apps. Internal search is a good one, maybe searching a bunch different doc types or internal databases. Good point!

ryes··on Show HN: A new search engine UX I've been working on in my free time
Haha, yes exactly. That is one of the design inspirations. If people can handle columns of dense content on newspapers, figured they could on search too? I hope so.

Thank you for noticing and commenting that!

ryes··on Show HN: A new search engine UX I've been working on in my free time
Odd, I just tested it and it worked fine. What version of FF are you using?

Are you using some incognito or private mode?

Thank you!

ryes··on Show HN: A new search engine UX I've been working on in my free time
Thank you for the great feedback!

I would love to have a different search source, but DuckDuckGo and Brave don't give API access to their results. I would definitely add those if they opened up access to Swurl. Know anyone that could help me with that?

ryes··on Show HN: A new search engine UX I've been working on in my free time
Thank you for that data! I was thinking about making it even wider, but that could hurt usability on smaller phones....
ryes··on Show HN: A new search engine UX I've been working on in my free time
Thank you for point that out! That could be helpful. Do you think I should implement that? Right now I still use the browser gestures too. I'm just getting better swiping inside vs swiping on the screen edge I guess...
ryes··on Show HN: A new search engine UX I've been working on in my free time
Thank you for pointing this out. Yes this is very true, it is a pretty classic search engine problem. I think there are 2 main ways to improve this, add search related searches that could help users click to better specify, but that would need another click. Or user profiling to figure out what the person usually like, but that would require profiling.

There is right now autosuggestions, that could help suggest a better query to begin with. Is that ok for now?

Or what would you suggest to better improve this? Would love your thoughts on this.

ryes··on Show HN: A new search engine UX I've been working on in my free time
Thank you for the voting up this feature! It is already there https://swurl.com/?q=php+array+sort

What search is it not showing up for you? I could try to trigger it better.

ryes··on Show HN: A new search engine UX I've been working on in my free time
Thank you! Yes for sure, that is totally on the todo list. I'll be adding all the search options later in a drop down. Just give me about 30 days to get to that. I appreciate the vote for these features, really helps me prioritize things!
ryes··on Show HN: A new search engine UX I've been working on in my free time
Dark mode is definitely on the short list of future todos... will probably get to it in the next 30 days.

On toggleable, that is interesting feedback. It is a bit different. I wonder what made you feel like it was a toggle... The clickable round circles is a bit like iOS calendar. So it shouldn't be hugely unfamiliar. I did try playing around with different button looks before. But I'll think about this problem... thank you for bringing it up :)

What columns would you not want to see? And may I ask why? So far the comments have been mostly an option to turn off Instagram and Twitter.

ryes··on Show HN: A new search engine UX I've been working on in my free time
Thanking for voting up the profile idea! It is a good one. Do you have any example searches? That would be helpful for me thinking about this. What searches would you want to see more of something else, that Google isn't already doing a good job of?

I could code things where if something shows up in Google results, it triggers another column of content from a specific source. Just need some more examples of what people are looking for.

ryes··on Show HN: A new search engine UX I've been working on in my free time
Wow, this is the best feedback. A lot here that is helpful.

Search profiles. This is a good idea. But could add a lot of complexity and options to fiddle with. I'm trying to just code stuff that adds a tons of value with the least code, basically efficiency. Which Goggles/profiles would you want/need? Would help me to think about this. Trying to figure out the best way to improve this without a bunch of work/settings from the user. Maybe there is a way to solve this automatically by understanding the objective better somehow.

Wooo, love the search type examples, especially the medicine one. I'm not in medicine, so that is super helpful to know. I will be working on those ideas this week. I will prioritize added sources most people are asking for here.

What different microblogging website do you use? I will be adding a way to disable Instagram today. Been getting a lot of requests for that.

I'm just using Bing rss for news. It is the only good API that has images included for news. If you have any other suggestions for better news APIs, I'm all ears!

There is localization and some language support based on browser language/country settings. If you change that in the browser, Swurl uses that info. Never heard of FASS.se, I'll take a look. Do you have any example searches where you would really like to see FASS.se shown?

On filtering out duplicate results, I agree that is a bit redundant. But I'm thinking it should stay because on mobile you can only see 1 column at a time. It is a design quirk that could be improved... not sure what the best way is.

Brave search is really good. I wish they would open up their search results with an API, I'd switch to using them as a search source!

ryes··on Show HN: A new search engine UX I've been working on in my free time
Hrmm, thank you for letting me know! Do you have any more info on how to reproduce this problem? How are you disabling it? I'm just trying to reproduce so I can try to stop any errors breaking things. Thank you!
ryes··on Show HN: A new search engine UX I've been working on in my free time
Is there some specific other sources you would like me to add? Could totally do it quickly if it would be helpful for everyone.

Right now I'm thinking about the pinning and ability to add any site. Kind of tricky to implement design vs simplicity wise.

ryes··on Show HN: A new search engine UX I've been working on in my free time
Cool! Would love to have more people getting value out of Swurl.

I will be coding a bunch of these suggestions today! What changes were you specifically needing? Just turning off Instagram? Sorry, the 1st comment was edited, so not sure what you would like.

ryes··on Show HN: A new search engine UX I've been working on in my free time
Thank you for the kind compliment, that is appreciated :) Good feedback!

Ok I will definitely add an option to turn off Instagram and Twitter. Is there anything besides those? Not sure I want to add an option to turn off anything, trying to limit the complexity and number of options.

Pinning... could you give me some examples of columns you would always want pinned to the front vs dynamic based on relevancy? Or some example queries? That would be super helpful. I like the pinning idea though! Just need some help thinking about this.

So on scoped google columns, that is basically how it is being done right now: https://swurl.com/?q=php+array+sort Usually google search with site: is better than the site search itself. But usually I customize it a bit if it is helpful. Stackoverflow is already there, and reddit. Is there any other specific ones you would like? I can code it really quickly.

ryes··on Show HN: A new search engine UX I've been working on in my free time
Love this, I think I will definitely add an option to disable! Thank you for your valuable feedback! I just woke up to go for a run, will code this in a couple hours when I get back...
ryes··on Show HN: A new search engine UX I've been working on in my free time
Please try a few more searches.

What searches are you doing where it doesn't get anything? That would help me figure out what looks wrong, thank you for the feedback!

ryes··on Show HN: A new search engine UX I've been working on in my free time
Good points, sorry about that. I will add that, thank you!

I just threw on GA so I can see some basic usage data.

ryes··on Show HN: A new search engine UX I've been working on in my free time
Glad you are enjoying it, thank you for your feedback and help testing!

Ok will test some more.

The problem is kinda Firefox actually. Swurl is using this newish css snap feature, but Firefox's implementation is a bit buggy. Sorry...

ryes··on Show HN: A new search engine UX I've been working on in my free time
https://swurl.com/?q=747+airplane that looks pretty

Hrmmm, that is a great idea. I like it. Do you have an idea of a good source for that? Is there a website you like for discovering the unexpected? I guess maybe something like 9gag? https://9gag.com/search?query=747%20airplane

ryes··on Show HN: A new search engine UX I've been working on in my free time
Ya for real! That is basically what this new UX is trying to enable. Just more columns of views.

I've been just seeing people swiping for more on snapchat and tiktok, thinking that UX design must be good to use for evolving something else. And hit upon trying it for search.

Let me know if you have other specific search columns I should add!

ryes··on Show HN: A new search engine UX I've been working on in my free time
Thank you senectus1! Let me know if you find anything I could improve as you use it.
ryes··on Show HN: A new search engine UX I've been working on in my free time
That is awesome you are working on a free search engine! Very cool.

Yes please incorporate any ideas you like.

I do think or hope search will eventually be free and everyone will have access to a good free search API.

I'll check out mwmlb deeply in the morning!

ryes··on Show HN: A new search engine UX I've been working on in my free time
Great it is working good for you, that makes me very happy. Glad it is smooth and fast. I tried really hard to make it super fast and optimized and small.

Thank you very much for your spacing feedback. What device are you using to browse? I could try making the column a bit more wider and more spacing... It is a big tradeoff between information density and spacing.

Maybe give it a try for a week and let me know if you get use to it? It will take a bit of getting use to, because the density is not like most other search engines. For example Kagi only has 1 column and a bunch of empty space on both sides.

I will need to be thinking more about spacing... thank you!

ryes··on Show HN: A new search engine UX I've been working on in my free time
Wooo, love it visarga. That is good input and suggestions.

I don't usually use Arxiv. Do you have some example queries where you would like to see a Arxiv column?

Also same with HN? That is a bit of a harder one. I guess I could trigger a HN column if there are tech news type results returned from Google.

ryes··on Show HN: A new search engine UX I've been working on in my free time
Hrmm, sorry about that. Please try again now. I added some more checking code. https://swurl.com/?q=google+translate

If it still isn't working, could you let me know the exact URL you are looking at? And browser you are using?

ryes··on Show HN: A new search engine UX I've been working on in my free time
Wow, thank you bckr! I appreciate your kind words.

Here are instructions on how to default it on Chrome https://swurl.com/default.html

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