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Right, it's like participants may artificially use the money to "better their lives" only because they personally wish that UBI could become permanent...

Yes, but to truly understand the implications wouldn't it have to be like...the size of a whole country?

I guess my question is (similar to your and to an earlier thread here)...if the minimum income is given to all, wouldn't "lowest tier" housing costs just raise up to swallow it all up, since demand for housing would increase? ( initially I doubt exploitation will be a problem since the number of participants is so few ).

Today "lowest tier housing" is purchased by the poor/poorest class. Suddenly the poor (and everybody, for that matter) have more money, however the amount of housing remains the same (though I guess some new development could be spurred, but you get the drift).

Really the YC experiment won't be able to even touch this aspect. It also won't be able to really touch on the long term effects it would have on participants. Initially will people be like "yea! let's get more education!" but then after 10 or 20 years, it just becomes common place, people stop thinking of it as "extra money for growth" but as "just normal monthly spending money" (like they consider food stamps today or what not) what happens then, I wonder...do they just live in slightly nicer apartments, or use it for education? It will be an interesting experiment for sure...

All I know is the people who live next to me really wish they could afford cable TV. And trips to disneyland. This would make their dreams come true...(there's a reason they're currently poor, believe it or not, it's something like cultural background and current cultural peer group, and kind of their understanding of how the world works). Extra money might not help that particular group. Though it would take the stress/pressure off, certainly. Or maybe it would, I don't know. So in essence, it might "magnify" peoples' current propensities. Do they want to not work? Don't! Do they want to invest? You can invest more quickly (though the reality, like I said before, is people tend to just "spend up" to what they think they can afford, get nicer cars, etc. again if this experiment is "only 5 years" they may not see this). It also makes me wonder if employers will offer "less" since they know "well, you already make 10K so I guess we don't have to offer you as much..." :|

However, if I receives this money <cough> of course I would do magnanimous things with it, like...investing it in real estate. Especially since poor people have more money to pay landlords. I wouldn't feel bad about jacking the rents on them now that I know they can afford it :)

So the reality is that people who now "wish" they could go to college will be able to (huge win, BTW). And those happy with not working? Well, they won't have to (or do they already not?) Got a cruddy job you wish you could quit? You will be able to (so maybe wages for worse jobs will increase?) The question mark is what will happen after that. Will people who quit their "tedious job" start up a new business out of sheer boredom/sheer freedom? Or will they just not work?

I guess the question they're trying to answer is "will poor people use this as a means to step up" because...for somebody already making 100K/yr I'm not sure how much effect the extra $12 or $15K is going to have, honestly. I mean nicer vacations? a slightly better house? The only real interesting data point to me is for the poor people, does it allow them to "step up". It might, today's US dole just provides at most food and shelter, so perhaps they'll use the money to ... get some education. Of course, if that were the case wouldn't they already be using their yearly "tax refund" to go and get education? Most people don't seem particularly adept at that for some reason...

Yes but it's kind of like "Fox News" versus most of the other ones. At least from my trivial purusual of them, many others lean the other direction, so the sum...

You can probably get it to "stay" as long as you provide 3 references from websites to it, basically. GL!

And you actually got paid for those clicks? That is bizarre, I would have thought that google had some system to automatically detect the "click fraudsters" and not charge for their clicks...I mean how hard is it to stop counting clicks after somebody's done it 5 times or so from the same site? But I guess google is actually making money from those fraudsters [since they charge the advertisers] so...maybe that's why they don't care as much about fraud LOL.

don't forget that the network transfer from an aws server may be slower than from a linode/DO as well. Any benchmarks out there?

I typically get 97% of one core for my $5 instance, FWIW (or 100, depending on load of the box, I presume).

That would be a non-free alternative...

Yeah for me my $5 DO beats the heck [for a rails app] out of having to use fcgi and have them constantly shutting down my processes, (in this case--bluehost) disabling my account for having too many files, etc. It is much faster.

and dwolla please, with its lower overhead? :)

(don't forget google drive's price decreases, which will also put pressure on Dropbox ...)

how is that weird?

Unfortunately, there are grandma's who are practically forced to have a smartphone "since the family plan has data" and...they would probably like live support (I'm just saying they do exist).

and speed vs libjpeg-turbo? please? [disappointed to see I couldn't actually post comments on the site itself]

Yeah no kidding why is that I wonder...

pingdom reports a 99.98% uptime for my DO box (8min of downtime in the last month). To a commercial user that may be unacceptable, but it's great for a $5 box for me :)

The blog mentions that these $10 plans are on the "new" hardware, which, AFAICT, doesn't allow access to shared [unused] cores on the host anymore, so you really do have only 1 core max. FWIW. They're said to be nice speedy cores, though I've never tried one myself.

Anyway, it's nice to see linode finally come down in their price point, thank goodness for competition, they're obviously responding to DO with this move. Unfortunately the $5 DO is good enough for me [SSD makes is so that swap time is less painful if I temporarily max out the RAM] so, alas, will be sticking with DO for now :|

My first thought is "whoa, they are going to have to figure out how to make those screaming fast to be able to keep up with the speed of SSD's by the time memristors are released" (though I guess the appeal of practically unlimited storage is nice...)

Yeah my thought too--I'll believe it when they actually release a product. It's like most research projects--initial results are great. Having it on the market means it really exists though...

I wish they had this for normal rentals as well...as a landlord I hate having to price everything myself and "guess" at what the actual market value is... :)

agree, these should be point releases I'd wager. However, they have to "keep up with the Joneses" (chrome, in this case) which has high numbered versions, I'm guessing...

I was referring to typo'ing for instance assignment (perhaps you were as well?)

a = 3 if true: a2 = 4 # lame I know--but beginners like me do it

--Python lets discover your failure at runtime...[as a good dynamic typed language does--Go doesn't FWIW]. It was just from an experience I had with learning Python recently. Now it makes me wonder what his blog post would look like saying things he'd miss going from Go to Python, or "what I wouldn't miss from Python..."

Yeah he says "Go's Qt bindings are 'not recommended for any real use'" but he is only linking to a 3rd party library that's [apparently] not ready for real use--I guess he could "there are not yet good Go bindings for Qt", or "the GUI toolkits are less developed than Python's" or "Go has no built in GUI but python does (tkinter)" [does anybody use tkinger anyway?].

Another thing that confuses me here is that he's saying "here are things I think I'd miss if I moved from Python to Go" without ever having done it to see if he actually misses them...[once more familiar with Go, he may end up not missing them as much as he anticipated].

Curiously absent also is a mention of significant whitespace, perhaps he wouldn't miss it? :)

OK, the only thing I can compare it against is my current "java" build times, and I can tell you that using maven is somewhat slow. So I guess you could say that if people went to java from c++ for the improved build times, they might still be interested in Go for the same improvement over java :)

Did he say that people looking for faster build times than C++ went to java? They may not have found what they were looking for, in that case...

Go does lack a quality [IMO] IDE [re: REPL use is for development], but that can still come with time.

Quality GUI bindings can also come with time [how often do you actually use Python for GUI stuff, though...but still nice to have, just not its major use I doubt]

Another thing you'll miss from Python is accidentally typo'ing variable names and having to discover that only at runtime :)

Just my rebuttal :)

Unfortunately, DO vs. Linode, DO is the only one that can provide me a "reasonably fast box" [cpu, ssd] for $5/month, so I'm cattle, but cheap... :) [pingdom shows 5min worth of outage in the past week (a 99.96% uptime) which may or may not be OK depending on your money vs. uptime pain threshold :) ]

Yes unfortunately unless you have adbock installed the "first" results in a google search for "vlc" are typical for the (adware, spammy) sites.

They can make for pretty statements in Ruby. But my question is then...why can't you do it in python just like ruby

def go : this.some_other_method : here_is_my_block

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