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I'm sorry, this is such a funny follow up comment, I literally lol-ed when I got to it.

If enough people internal at Google get pissed off and raise this up enough it can legitimately get rolled back.

I feel like you're trying to misunderstand.

Let's review the easy to parse things that have been said

> I suppose you could say the same thing of Germany in the 1930s. The parallels aren’t even that hard to find as there are literal rockets being built in both cases.

You're obviously comparing both Elon and the current admin to Nazis. Which is insane, i.e. a view of things incompatible with reality, if you actually believe that.

> We used to have a rule for people like you on the Internet.

It's obviously Godwin's law. You aren't part of some oppressed class that I'm singling out, idiots have tons of power these days (look at the Whitehouse).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

> You’ll likely find similar when looking up SpaceX profitability in 2025.

> So, again, these things only exist because of the US government.

> Do we agree on this yet or do we need to delve further somehow?

If you read carefully you'll see that I said that SpaceX would not have existed from its conception if not for the US government. But I asserted that it is no longer necessary and that is absolutely true. You pointing out that a basket of money includes dollars from the government (i.e. starlink revenue) doesn't even come close to disproving that. Google gets paid from government contracts too and their existence is not contingent on those contracts.

This conversation is over. I hope you will investigate facts and appreciate nuance more in the future.

You're borderline saying "the present US administration, elected democratically, is equivalent to the Nazis".

That's insane. We used to have a rule on the Internet for people like you.

I'm no Trump fan, and people making alarmist statements like yours only help people like him get elected.

So, you know, stop. Especially if you think they're Nazis.

SpaceX exists because the US wants access to space and they are the cheapest way to space in history. They can continue to exist because starlink and their commercial launch services are massively profitable.

No he can't because the US is paying for that, it is the government's mission. And fwiw now the gray area of free starlink in Ukraine also taken care of, the US government is handling that contracting like they do with all weapons systems. Before starlink was made available for free in Ukraine for humanitarian purposes, but the military also obviously found good uses for it before the gray areas were resolved.

If you want to work on manned spaceflight specifically or Mars colonization even more specifically, where exactly could you better spend your time?

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The space shuttle was an awesome feat of engineering, but in practical terms, it cost a lot for every launch, so it really didn't deliver well on the most important piece of what reusability is supposed to get you.

The tiles themselves were apparently a big source of the problems on the shuttle too. If they can figure out reusable tiles with starship, with quick turnaround and low-cost for maintenance, that'd be a huge engineering accomplishment.

They've gotta consistently re-enter it first though.

I believe it's because the space of physics interacting with specific designs of specific components in the context of a large system with other specific components is very, very big and thus it is not feasible to just "simulate everything" ahead of time.

Also combustion itself is not properly understood all the way down, so there is literally a big physics gap involved here.

Why?

Your comment does what your comment says isn't okay.

Maybe you shouldn't go around policing people's opinions.

> This current iteration of Apple lacks the geniuses and visionaries that might have possibly justified their behavior at some point in the past, so you have a soulless corporate churn reinforcing the biggest walled garden in the history of humanity, with no apparent purpose except self perpetuation.

My read was that this addressed your point.

For hardware only

I am searching for the incredible information and I can't find it without the LLM because I don't know the proper terminology ahead of time and search isn't that good unless you know exactly what you want.

Yep, 100%. It just feels worse with doctors imo because it feels like the culture treats them like some monolith of skill and wisdom.

Okay that at least makes sense to me.

IMO it's also clearly wrong, because I think even if you believe most of AI is hype you must see the value that a lot of people are getting from it, like the housing market example I gave.

Appreciate you explaining your perspective!

So you think the entire perceived value of AI will be wiped out.

I think we probably are in a bubble, but much like housing bubbles in major metro areas, the value is real and so the bubble is on top of that real value vs being 100% synthetic.

That's a good point and even worse we'll eventually end up with yet another issue where both left and right offer terrible options and there's no nuanced middle ground :/

I don't totally follow what you're saying.

Are you saying that LLMs are most useful if you're not intellectually curious, and therefore most interested in immediate answers, but also that they're very useful if you're a really great programmer for an unstated reason?

Verification is often easier/faster than coming up with the answer totally

Absolutely not. A horse and carriage will do fine thank you very much.

I feel like you're coming from a very strange place of both using advanced technology that saves you time and expands your personal knowledge base and at the same time saying that the more advanced technology that saves you even more time and expands your knowledge base further is useless and a time sink.

For most questions it is so much faster to validate a correct answer than to figure out the answer to begin with. Vague queries CANNOT be distilled to simple keyword searches when you don't know where to start without significant time investment. Ctrl-f relies on you and the article having the exact same preferred vocabulary for the exact same concepts.

I do not assume that LLMs don't lie or hallucinate, I start with the assumption that they will be wrong. Which for the record is the same assumption I take with both websites and human beings.

Did you miss the part where I said it helps me find new knowledge that I wouldn't have otherwise?

That is pretty significant in my book.

For me it's pretty much all knowledge that I'm immediately operationalizing. I occasionally use it to look up actors and stuff too, but most of the time it's information that provides direct value to me

Have you even tried using them though? Like in earnest? Or do you see yourself as a conscientious objector of sorts?

Coziness with banks can certainly be an issue, I don't know specifics and that article is pay walled for me, but it sounds very believable to me.

That doesn't really change what I said regarding interest rates though.

Because the middleman is faster and practically never lies/hallucinates for simple queries, the middleman can handle vague queries that Google and Wikipedia cannot.

The same reasons you use Wikipedia instead of reading all the citations on Wikipedia.

Citing AI for layoffs is great cover for "we over hired during Covid".

There probably are a few nuts out there that actually fired people to be replaced with AI, I feel like that won't go well for them

There really is no evidence.

What is this AI slop that you're wading through and where is it?

Spam emails are not any worse for being verbose, I don't recognize the sender, I send it straight to spam. The volume seems to be the same.

You don't want an AI therapist? Go get a normal therapist.

I have not heard of any AI product displacing industrial design, but if anything it'll make it easier to make/design stuff if/when it gets there.

Like are these real things you are personally experiencing?

See my previous statement

> Once you have several fundamental terms and phrases for new topics it's easy to then validate the information with some quick googling too.

You're practically saying that looking at an index in the back of a book is a meaningless step.

It is significantly faster, so much so that I am able to ask it things that would have taken an indeterminate amount of time to research before, for just simple information, not deep understanding.

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Also I can truly validate literally any piece of information it gives me. Like I said previously, it makes it very easy to validate via Wikipedia or other places with the right terms, which I may not have known ahead of time.