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So fucking cool.

Yes, I understand what you are saying. And I’m saying I disagree.

> bub

And now I’m sorry for your anger.

Yes, I agree - no comment in these threads is for the recipient. It’s for the audience. And I appreciate you engaging with me earnestly and thoughtfully.

But I disagree with your “toxic”. I think HN has a fear of conflict: the “civility” argument from politics/Clinton circa 2016. And look where we are today.

Sadly, conflict is sometimes necessary to resolve problems.

For example, right now, the anti-AI thing is pure madness. I understand it is based in fear, and I have sympathy for that. But much of human ugliness is based in fear, and sometimes conflict is necessary to get a community past its fears. Humans are stubborn.

So, again, I am sorry for your discomfort.

Yeah. I have a Stratasys J55 3D printer. Industrial and closed.

And now I can print to it via my Mac.

It's a fun time to be alive.

Well - as one example - today I found someone doing a "Show HN" about an AI system that will make an entire game for you via a chat interface.

The topmost comments were ugly attacks.

HEH. Struck a nerve?

I do think that the anti-AI mentality around here is bizarre.

I do not think that forwarding a listing from Google is bizarre.

These seem like reasonable positions to me.

I am very sorry if my voicing these beliefs makes you uncomfortable.

This is, of course, incredibly cool.

I think many people are mad because they've been arguing for a long time that this is impossible.

And it's embarrassing for them.

"I did not flag you, but..."

"I am not racist, but..."

My dearest dude -

You called my wife bizarre. Then you said "TECHNICALLY, I didn't call your WIFE bizarre I called her ACTIONS bizarre."

I would ask you to stop talking to me, but it seems unlikely to work.

So. You have a nice day, now.

Sadly - most people on the site can't read them. Only the power users, such as yourself.

But I am glad you've decided to engage. Now will you answer my question?

HE WOULD NEVER FLAG SOMEONE JUST FOR DISAGREEING!

He would make up an excuse that is entirely untrue and then flag them.

Oh wait, I'm thinking of my last encounter with him.

She just wanted to show me what she wanted; I don't think she wanted to encourage me to choose a different color.

SO BIZZARE!

>I've never seen anyone post a copy-and-paste of some pages

I have.

For example, I was looking for a bathmat. My wife pasted me a list. Just a week ago.

I don't think my wife is bizarre. It's unfortunate that you do.

Of course not. I didn't say anything like that.

But I do see a consistent trend here regarding hostility to AI. It seems to be a pattern, and a strange one.

I've never had someone angry at me for posting a Google search, for example.

It could also be that this site has created its own hive-mind environment. Which is especially and bizzarely intolerant of AI at the moment.

I don't want the prompt - I may not have access to an LLM to evaluate it. The entire argument here is misguided, and deeply angry about AI.

It's equivalent to answering a question with "google it". Which is often times just plain rude.

And now someone is upvoting it? A message on the wrong thread that is a week old and abandoned?

I daresay - am I witnessing astroturfing?

Oh my!

I mean that question seriously. I barely know who Gruber is.

Do you guys just make shit up as you go along? And then delete people for it?

Really?

As it's been a week now without answer from you - I'm going to have to assume you're refusing to answer. Which means it's very likely you never did ask to see the rejection letter. Which means you did not do the most basic verification of your source's claims.

You try? You need to try much harder.

Ad hominem.

Ummm... this seems entirely irrelevant to our discussion.

Our discussion was almost a week ago, is lying dormant, and is completely unrelated to what you just posted.

I'm having a hard time understanding how you could have made such an error.

Actually - I hardly know of Gruber - other than he's widely read. I recognize the layout of his blog, which means I must have seen it before. Is that what you mean?

Wait - does this mean that HN censors people based on the hunches of its popular readers?

No. Issues don't need to be exploited to exist. As long as the exploit is possible security is impaired.

This is not controversial. In the least.

Possibly. Do you have agents? Pull my repo and ask them to see if they can see any bugs in Donkey Kong.

The author claims that software has become no more secure - despite the avalanche of security fixes appearing for all software everywhere.

Never mind the more subtle issues.

The most interesting thing I've found so far is the anti-tampering mechanisms.

In Time Pilot - there are three routines that are called constantly from inside the main loop. Each routine computes the checksum of the other routine's code to see if it's been modified. If so it jumps into random junk data.

There are other less exotic routines that make sure the copyright string hasn't been modified, etc.

https://github.com/qarl/arcade-js/blob/main/games/timeplt/id...

Fascinating.

I'm working on getting the "handholding" down to zero. Frogger is almost done and I haven't had to intervene once.

> It still produces a lot of crap in the later steps (understanding the implementation itself)

I've had success here by adding a phase called "grounding" that attempts to verify its "understanding" by creating tests that modify the running executable to ensure its made the right inference.

Is this variable really MARIO_X? Change it and see if Mario moves. Etc.

As an example in Donkey Kong - the system had trouble deciding if an array controlled barrels or fireballs. There was conflicting evidence.

After many trips through the loop - it realized it does BOTH, depending on which level you're on.

So the "understanding" grows with each iteration.

I've had a lot of success decompiling old video game ROMs in exactly this way. Like you say - give it a way of verifying correctness - put it in a loop - and they are quite surprising.

https://github.com/qarl/arcade-js

i'm realizing that this whole site is suffering from what could be called AI witch-hunting. i think that's what's going on here.

very odd. hopefully it will go away soon.