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pg··on A Way to Detect Bias
It's true that this test assumes groups of applicants are roughly equal in (distribution of) ability. That is the default assumption in most conversations I've been involved in about bias, and particularly the example I used, but I'll add something making that explicit.
pg··on “I can be tricked by anyone who looks like Mark Zuckerberg”
They were making fun of me for talking so much about how he looked like Zuck, not him because the startup did badly. It was arguably not his fault the company did badly; it fell apart due to a cofounder dispute.

I added more detail to that paragraph to make these things clear.

pg··on Meet the People Taking over Hacker News
Is there a forum that doesn't ban people?
pg··on Meet the People Taking over Hacker News
I know almost nothing about Clojure. I saw some example code around 7 years ago, but I don't remember it well.
pg··on Meet the People Taking over Hacker News
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7484304
pg··on Meet the People Taking over Hacker News
Actually we're pretty sure there is less of that now than a couple years ago, because Daniel has written some amazingly effective software for detecting it.
pg··on Meet the People Taking over Hacker News
It's ok to ask something of general interest. The point is that HN is not YC customer support.
pg··on Meet the People Taking over Hacker News
I'm going to keep writing essays. I don't usually decide what to write very far in advance though.

Yes, I'll be working on Arc again. (I've been working in Arc regularly, since HN is written in it, but I haven't been able to spend much time thinking about the core language for the last 5 years or so.)

pg··on Meet the People Taking over Hacker News
YC doesn't have budgets.
pg··on Meet the People Taking over Hacker News
What I was doing before I started YC: writing and programming.
pg··on Meet the People Taking over Hacker News
Good point; added them.
pg··on After reviewing about 30 YC applications, here's some general advice
Seems unlikely. YC doesn't need the money, so it would just be a distraction.
pg··on After reviewing about 30 YC applications, here's some general advice
It depends on what the company is building. Some things take a long time to launch. With others it's a bad sign if the company takes more than a month or two to launch.
pg··on After reviewing about 30 YC applications, here's some general advice
I mentioned those because they have the highest valuations. It usually takes several years to reach that sort of valuation, so the most highly valued companies are never the recent ones.
pg··on Pending Comments Update
Oops, I get it now. It should decrease the sort of comment people attack HN for, but that wasn't the purpose of it. Those comments are just a subset of the more general problem of users saying mean and/or stupid things about any topic.

The real motivation for pending comments, incidentally, was simply that I found, as a user, that I didn't like reading comment threads as much as I used to. HN was an instance of me following the advice I often give founders: to build something you yourself want.

pg··on Pending Comments Update
If our goal were to decrease criticism of YC, this wouldn't work. In fact, it wouldn't work as a way to eliminate any specific type of critical comment, because all it takes to make a comment visible is a small number of the many people who can endorse comments. To ensure a comment would be suppressed, the endorsers would have to be unanimously opposed to it, and it's hard to think of opinions that many HN users are unanimous about. Certainly an uncritical admiration for YC is not one of them.

What you say about YC being a good target for a symbolic victory is very insightful though. That is a real conundrum. I think it explains why any company over a certain size tends to express itself pretty blandly.

pg··on Pending Comments Update
That's a variable the moderator can tune as well. We actually ended up setting the limit at 5 when we launched, which I don't think inconvenienced anyone.
pg··on Pending Comments Update
Good catch. But strictly speaking that wasn't doing development in the repl, but repairing data. The live server is the only place you can repair data on the live server.
pg··on Pending Comments Update
The moderator is concerned about that too. But if it did start to happen it would be pretty obvious. So it seems worth trying to see if pending comments can be tuned to cut obvious crap without eliminating stuff that's merely controversial.
pg··on Pending Comments Update
If we didn't have prior restraints on people speaking about places where you could buy cheap Ugg boots, HN would be so overrun with spam that it would be unusable.
pg··on Pending Comments Update
Given that endorsement is a mechanism which can only reduce the quantity of discussion on HN

That seems a mistaken assumption. The presence of existing comments often causes me to refrain from posting comments. Often I've been about to reply to something, then notice someone else has already said substantially the same thing, and as a result don't.

And this is not a contrived example. As I said when I first launched pending comments, if someone says something important in a nasty way, it may well turn out to be safe not to endorse it, because someone else will probably show up and make the same point without nastiness.

Plus if HN gets more civil, it may encourage people to comment who might not have before. I know from my own experience that incivility has decreased the number of comments I make. I often find myself about to say something, then decide I have work to do and don't have time to spend the afternoon fighting, and so don't say it.

Only experience can tell us whether one or both of these factors will increase the number of comments, but we can't assume that pending comments can only reduce discussion.

pg··on Photographing A Town That Never Was – The Meta Picture
The cars are too clean. The pictures would look even more realistic if he sprayed them with dust.
pg··on Pending Comments Update
The sort of incivility we're worried about is the more explicit type where someone replies to a comment with "You are an idiot. Don't you realize that x y z?" when they could have simply said "x y z." I'm pretty sure if HN cuts down on that type of comment, people who are earnest but upset about something will be net ahead of people they might be arguing with who are merely thoughtless jerks.
pg··on Pending Comments Update
The solution may be to have pending comments only enforced on recent threads. That would be about 30 characters of additional code.
pg··on Pending Comments Update
Don't worry, the moderator is very sensitive to this issue. There are going to be fairly explicit standards about what should be endorsed and what shouldn't. Roughly things shouldn't be endorsed if they are gratuitously uncivil or content-free, but there will presumably be a fully detailed version of that policy. And there will probably also be a version of showdead for pending comments. (Already anyone who can endorse can see them at /pending.)

We're hoping that this feature will make the site more hospitable to women. That wasn't the only reason for doing it, because users get stupid and/or nasty about lots of topics (or any topic, if they happen to start insulting one another), but certainly some of the most cringe-worthy threads we've cringed over have involved female programmers. So it would be hard to imagine a version of "working" for which pending comments working would not thereby make HN more welcoming to women.

pg··on Pending Comments Update
The main reason not to is that comments sitewide come too fast for a human to watch what's happening in real time.
pg··on Pending Comments Update
There is one main moderator (who is not me) as well as several other people who could do something like that but wouldn't.
pg··on Pending Comments Update
IIRC that name was chosen by the moderator, but it will be easy enough for him to change if he wants.
pg··on Pending Comments Update
Actually I don't think any of the outages have been caused by this. The prospect does add an edge of excitement to programming though. Gamification for programmers!
pg··on Pending Comments Update
You can tell when a comment of your own is pending because the text is preceded by [pending]. You can tell when you can endorse a comment because there is link to do so. The link is currently small and gray, so it should probably be made a brighter color or replaced by a button or something.
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