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> When Roberts contacted one of the journals the editor responded that “I wouldn’t trust the data.”
People already know what the bullshit results are.
Manipulating people isn’t a sustainable solution.
I’m not sure that’s how the chain of causality works. We have 80s-style public health communication that isn’t effective today. People are looking for a reason to reject it. If not the 5G chip stuff, it’d be something else.
That statement applies to most medical interventions before testing. If a public health organization thinks they’ll need to mix doses, they should have the foresight to sponsor a trial. It’s very ethically questionable to foist untested interventions on your citizenry.
What’s the expected rate of variant emergence under different scenarios? Can we get it down to near-zero, or are we talking like 30,000 escape variants to 30? Since it only takes one, clearly in the latter case further restrictions and mandates would be futile.
Somebody should be able to run simulations and come up with reasonable estimates.
This guy became a little controversial [1] after a FOIA request turned up emails in which he appears to be conspiring with colleagues to manipulate public perception:
> “you, me and him should not sign this statement, so it has some distance from us and therefore doesn’t work in a counterproductive way.” Daszak added, “We’ll then put it out in a way that doesn’t link it back to our collaboration so we maximize an independent voice.”
> Baric agreed, writing back, “Otherwise it looks self-serving and we lose impact.”
[1]: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/the-lab-leak-theory-...
We did some things right, but the state government really, really is not some bastion of good sense.
[1]: https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/12/29/how-can-california-ha...
I dunno, I think that’s confusing cause and effect. The solutions being proposed (e.g. be vegetarian) aren’t what people want. The same goes for lots of problems it seems. In my mind, somebody turning to Fox News et al. is a kind of effect of that.
People aren’t going to suddenly want to become vegetarian if Fox News goes away. There will probably always be somewhere people can listen to talking heads rant about the solutions they feel are being shoved down their throats.
I think this isn’t quite true due to water’s large enthalpy of vaporization. In dry air the limits are gonna be much higher. Somebody’s probably done the math.
Edit: not that it’s something I’d personally feel comfortable with ethically