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I know a person who made $800,000 a year without having to work much and had another $500,000 an interest income. For whatever reason, this person sold some amphetamine prescription pills to another rich guy (in the open) and scammed his own company for $80 in the same day. He made some crazy investment and was fired, destroying his life.

I know another person who sold a company for $110 million, and tried to scam a major investment bank. There's about 10 con-artists in this group of people, all of them have a variety of wealth, some extreme wealth but of questionable origin.

These people were amateurs and in extremely privileged positions with huge politicians involved with them. Now the politicians weren't involved but I could see a situation developing where something conspiratorial could happen.

But I have never experience this with the government or military. People forget the intelligence agencies have certain mandates, rules, laws, regulations etc. Sure some wild stuff has happened, along with illegal and immoral in the past.

And the general march towards a technocratic supranational surveillance state is concerning, but to me that is the inertia of ignorant power hungry people.

As for conspiracies like 9/11, it seemed to be partially a failed sting operation. And I think the coverup of what CIA and DIA were involved with, leads to the conspiracy theories.

And all the weird elements of 9/11 or other stories, or love, life, the Universe etc., to me seem like echos of distractions, set to feed delusions and one's ego, like there is a firewall of sorts protecting the dangerous from reaching some level of enlightenment or understanding.

When in reality, all this is a computer simulation. And the absurdism to it is screaming out that this isn't real . In my opinion, and Elon seems to believe that- https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=fP...

Elon Musk: "Well maybe we are in a simulation right now. [smiles, nods] [pause] Yeah [laughs] seriously. [laughs] Uh sometimes it feels like that." (23:14)

Elon of Mars (Wernher von Braun's The Mars Project) - http://imgur.com/a/yhvDH

I will add, I don't believe in Free Well or the self, and I think Sam Harris is right on these ideas.

The actual history of the Illuminati is more interesting than all conspiracy theories. In fact, the Jesuits in the 18th century in Bavaria existed like people think the Illuminati does today. The oppression is what incited Adam Weishaupt to create a rationalist secret society; based on the Jesuit structure and thanks to Baron Knigge, an improvement of the Unknown Superiors of the Strict Observance. A system that was "impeccable" according to some scholars in terms of its metholodgy and logic; nothing to do with mysticism.

The Illuminati was against the occult, mysticism and the Rosicrucians. And the only two musicians ever actually associated with the Illuminati were Beethoven and Mozart (or at least those around them were Illuminatus).

I generally agree. I happen to know famous conspiracy theorists, people who work in the White House, the Pentagon, the IC and several billionaires.

I forgot who said it recently but the further you get to the top there is less people actually. There is no coordination of interests. I should say David Rockefeller has succeeded in making Balassa's theory of economic integration synonymous with globalization, which to me is a threat to natural rights and classical liberalism. But they are all seem to have good intentions just flawed philosophies.

I also know a variety of super strange things, that as an engineer I could analyze but to me it seems pointless.

I think Elon Musk is right when he says reality seems like a simulation. Conspiracy theories are the least interesting thing in context with certain experiences I have had. Which are largely centered around quantum synchronicity, spontaneity and randomness. But also DMT and a Kabbalistic text known as Sefer Yetzirah.

I am atheist and skeptic but there's something to the fine-structure constant and 1371233. And surely I am not the only one to have discovered this but I have asked people who should know, and they don't seem to.

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Also, Carol Quigley agreed with you according to Terrence J. Boyle-

>Unfortunately, many people interested in Carroll Quigley take entirely out of context the references he made in his book Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time about a high-level Anglophile conspiracy that, he said, flourished before World War II. It seems that many people believe Quigley thought this vast conspiracy somehow continues to operate right up to our own day.

>But as Dr. Quigley once told me, the reality is much scarier. Instead of a secret cabal now being in charge, there's no one in charge.

http://www.tboyle.net/Catholicism/Carroll_Quigley.html

The CIA didn't exist until several months after the 1947 Roswell crash of a US Air Force "weather balloon".

The CIA doesn't have complete access to Area 51. They fund projects and advise, but there are projects and Special Access Programs that are outside of their mandate and authority.

It is probable that in the 50s, 60s and 70s the CIA advised the Air Force on disinformation or other tactics, but I do not believe UFO mythology was created by them. I am almost certain but, of course, I do not know everything and I have no evidence to support my assertion.

A large part of the UFO-government mythology did originate from a psyop against Paul Bennewitz perpetrated by the Air Force-

http://philipcoppens.com/bennewitz.html

The first time a UFO expert (Bruce Maccabee) spoke at the CIA was in the late 1970s.

Is there any evidence CIA was responsible for the hoaxes?

There is significant evidence that US Air Force was responsible for the hoaxes. And, of course, Area 51 is an Air Force Base.

The relationship between the two seems acrimonious on this issue. Also "the CIA" sounds more sinister than the US Air Force so it makes the story better.

If you want to understand the UFO story better, you should watch Mirage Men about Air Force Office of Special Investigations Agent Richard Doty, a self-admitted UFO disinformation agent-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6naKTTuBq14

The intelligence agencies aren't hiding anything about UFOs from my experience. And I don't really think the USAF is either. But the USAF did tell various people that UFOs were real and they did run a psychological operation against Paul Bennewitz, destroying his life and forever obsfucating whatever truth there is about UFOs. (None in my opinion.)

Here's a good summary:

http://www.openminds.tv/open-letter-u-s-air-force-allegation...

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I think if you had a superconducting solenoid that exerted so many teslas of magnetic flux then it would diagrammatically levitate. But not sure.

I think it's possible for a hoverboard-type technology and also, there's some theories that seem like someone would had pursued them by now but no one has or the govt did and it didn't work. In my experience, there is no "new physics" type technology possessed by the government and there is no UFO coverup with the government. However, the USAF polluted things with their psyops or whatever it was they were doing, so it is near impossible to discern anything.

But I am a skeptic.