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- a 3080 costs > $750 . Good luck buying one, I would if it wasn't out of stock. On the other hand the gtx 1050 mobile that is on the M1 can be easily found on eBay for < $50

- yes, you totally can. The best thing is that with a 1k.entry level you can start working on real-life projects that have deadlines and start earning money that will let you upgrade your gear to the level you actually need, without having to buy an entire new machine. The old components can serve as spare parts or to build a second node. You don't waste a single penny on things you don't need.

Even though, it's true, you can't brag with friends that it absorbs only 20 watts full load and the heat of the aluminium body is actually pleasant

It's a big sacrifice, I understand it.

> The reviews clearly show the M1 Macs, including the MacBook Pro outperform most "desktops" at graphics-intensive tasks.

They don't!

Cut the BS

> Here's a video of 4k, 6k and 8k RED RAW files being rendered on an M1 Mac

Blablablabla

That's not rendering

Not all cars are equivalent

I guess you don't drive a Ferrari or a Murciélago

And does it really matter to have a faster car if you can't use it to go camping with your family because space is limited?

That's what an Apple gives you, but it's not even a Ferrari, it's more like an Alfa Duetto

It's not expensive if you compare it to similar offers in the same category with the same constraints (which are artificially imposed on Macs like there's no other way to use a computer...)

But if you compare it to the vast amount of better configurations that the same money can buy, it is not

Gold value will never go to zero though

For the simple reason that it exist in the physical space and can't disappear, unless the laws that regulate our existence change, which is quite improbable

Gold will also work and retain a value even if society suddenly shuts down and reset to a "sticks and stones" state

Bitcoin advocates have this weird tendency to completely ignore decades of game theory

That's why people don't trust them

You can't do what you do on a desktop on a laptop, not even a good one

Who cares if an M1 consumes less energy than a candle if I can buy 64GB of DDR4 3600 for 250 bucks and render the VFX for a 2 hours movie in 4k?

Another 300 bucks buy me a second GPU

When I deliver the job I put aside another 300 bucks and buy a third GPU

Or a better CPU

vertical products are an absolute waste of money when you chase the last bit of performance to save time (for you and your clients) and don't have the budget of Elon Musk

The M1 changes nothing in that space

Which is also a very lucrative space where every hour saved is an hour billed doing a new job instead of waiting to finish the last one to get paid

You can't mount your old gear on a rack and use it as a rendering node, plus you're paying for things you don't need: design, thermal constraints, a very expensive panel (a very good one, but still attached to the laptop body, and small)

So no, M1 is not comparable to a Threadripper, it's not even close, even if it consumes a lot more energy

When I'll see the same performances and freedom to upgrade in 20W chips, I will be the first one to buy them!

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82...

Then there's the 92% (actually 92.4%) of the remaining market that is not using an Apple computer that will keep buying non Apple hardware

Even if Apple doubled their market share, it would still be 15% Vs 85%

How is it possible that on HN people don't realise that 90 is much bigger than 10 and it's not a new laptop that will overturn the situation in a month is beyond me

You don't need banks to transfer money, you need them for loans

But then the money is immediately available and I can buy a new pair of shoes with it

Honestly, how much money one needs to move that the cost of the operation actually matters?

For the same reason you vote for the president in October and the guy is actually elected in January

Honest question: in 20 years would you prefer to own a 21 milionth of bitcoin (1 bitcoin) or 21 milionth of gold (~8kgs of gold)?

Not thinking about the value of it, but of its future usefulness as value store and as mean of payment

United States are a disfunctional country, we already knew

USA is only 5% of the world population what happens there is vastly insignificant outside of it.

Android is on 75% of European phones, the CEO of the fortune 500 company I work for uses an Android phone, same goes for the vast majority of the management there, many highly influencial politics own Android phones, that's simply a spurious correlation

https://tylervigen.com/old-version.html

Impression is in the realm of reality, it's simply deceptive

Jetbrains that fits in 8GB of memory with slack and Firefox leaving 2GB free it's not happening

I used to code on 800×600 monitors professionally

If I say today that they are more than enough to work, I expect to be taken to a mental institution

Nothing.

Most of the toolchains are OSS

The system is swapping a lot but the SSD is giving you the impression that 8GB are enough

That's a load of bullshit

Modules and libraries are not part of the language

Java,for example, can't have proper generics because at the bytecode level (the "real" Java) they are not supported, it can't have static constructors because it would break inheritance and they had to come up with static blocks, it has no support for static methods with the same signature of an instance method, because the call syntax doesn't differentiate a call to a static method from a call to an instance method, so the compiler can't tell which method is being called, etc. etc.

These are all consequences of the original choices taken 25 years ago when they designed the bytecode and the sintactic sugar over the bytecode, that still live with us today

Why corn when they can eat worms and what they find on the ground roaming free?

Why everything must be reduced to an industrial activity when clearly it doesn't need to?

I guess "teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime" is not a good advice either, how much fish food do you need in a lifetime?

And who's gonna pay for it?

Principia Mathematica wants a word in private

P.s. do you realise how much harder it would be to understand the same thing in machine language?

Haskell? (30 years old)

Where are the Lispers when you need them? :)

Overreacting is equally dangerous, I could argue that if they were really killing the freedom to communicate we should fight them as we would fight an enemy, possibly going to war, armed.

That's not what's happening here.

It might be useful to remember that our communications have never been encrypted before a few years ago and they haven't been less free.

Also: encrypted communication but clear text metadata kinda defeat the purpose of encrypted communication.

If I know where, when and who was involved in a call, I can easily tell that two people chatting and ending up in the same place every time both their partners phones are away from home, could be cheating

If I call an ambulance at the same time and place where an accident happened but the ambulance doesn't report a second vehicle, guess who probably didn't report an accident?

Privacy and secrecy are a broader subject, it's good we discuss about it, it's not good to blindly trust WhatsApp or Facebook with our data.

Bad as it might be, I have more control and trust more my state than a private company on the other side of the World.

It's not hyperbolic

How many countries NK invaded?

How many coup d'état that established long and painful military dictatorships around the World it supported and/or financed?

At least nobody calls NK the greatest democracy and country in the world or the land of the free...

It's not legal, unless you own a license that only comes bundled with the Apple hardware and can't be bought separately

You need Apple hardware to build apps

That's not for granted

Incorrect

You're assuming that owning an iPhone means you also own Apple hw to build the apps

It's not obvious

As any other country did something similar to what US did?

Can you name one which isn't already bad?

Like, I don't know, Spain? Germany? Argentina? South Africa?

The greatest democracy and country in the World shouldn't even be in the same business of North Korea style

And yet...

Being better than North Korea is a pretty low bar

I would expect from the greatest democracy and country in the World to be in the top three, not a little bit better than those at the bottom

> Saying Trump brought war to American soil for example isn't anywhere near true and also inflammatory.

I believe that he was quoting the New Yorker there

He posted the link as well

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/how-trump-brou...

Wow, you are arguing against a study by citing Vox

Just WOW

OK, let's make it easy for you

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VIETNAMESE AND INDOCHINA WAR: A TOTAL OF 5.5 MILLION DEAD

THE VIETNAM WAR - 3.8 MILLION DEAD

1.7 MILLION MORE DEAD IN THE CAMBODIAN, KHMER ROUGE GENOCIDE

Source for death toll: Necrometrics and British Medical Journal, 2008

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TOTAL IRAQI'S KILLED IN AMERIAN WARS (1990-PRESENT) - 3 MILLION IRAQI SANCTIONS: 1.7 MILLION TOTAL DEAD [1]

500,000 CHILDREN DEAD [2][3]

Source:

[1] Behind the War on Terror. Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed. 2003.

[2] Food and Agricultural Organization Study (1995)

[3] Iraq Sanctions Kill Children, U.N Reports (New York Times, 1995

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Just these major events account to more than 10 million deaths

And they stop at the first gulf war

There are many more years to cover

Good luck denying that

> 1942, 1945

The massive improvement from 80 years ago happened even in third World countries run by warlord (financed by the US)

So what?

Can we not have another 80 years of US hegemony and compare the results?

Is it asking too much?

It's how science works: the US hegemony experiment is done and the results are meh, we ended up with Trump, now let's try something else and let's try not to bet on the wrong horse this time, ok guys?

I know what he was doing

But we all know that "behind a joke there's always the truth"

I still hope USA will understand what kind of criminal state they have been and still are.

No hard feelings, just hope for them to learn and be better in the future

Probably they'll realise it one day, in the future, when some other country will treat them like they did