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IE8 is growing because people are moving off of IE5/6/7. Soon they'll have to move off IE8 as well, but I imagine that IE8 is the logical stopover since apps that only ran in older IE versions don't require a lot of work to run in IE8. Getting them up to modern browser standards, though, will take time.

Example: many many years ago I worked on a project that used XML Data Islands as an early form of AJAX-like functionality. You could fairly easily modernize it up to IE8 without major changes. But to go beyond that would require heavy rewrites.

> i saw that its job market is declining

Not really.

> is it worth my time to learn for employment opportunity

Yes, if you're interested.

> what is the hottest things right now in development job market

You really can't go wrong with JavaScript in general. Its a requirement for UI development on web apps, and it can also be used for many other things.

> Exactly which of the above will run out in the next 1000 years?

Phosphorus. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0959378008...

The article implies it was because of delivery time. My marginally informed $0.02:

They wanted to become an ecomm giant. But every sale they ran originally was fairly small-batch. One step up from an etsy store. You can't really scale that up. They decided they wanted to go big, and to do so meant holding inventory and selling more mass-produced things.

The number of people balking at $9/mo in this thread is amazing. $9 is nothing compared to salaries. If it saves you 1 hour of productivity per month, you get 10x return on that cost straight away.

Siméon Denis Poisson was a French mathematician.

Poisson is French for "fish".

Good UI is relative to the product functionality and the goals of its users. The command line is good UI for some things and bad for others. Its certainly not universally good.

What exactly are you looking for? Another technical cofounder? A business person? Etc.. Finding different types of people require different approaches because the market isn't even.

They're certainly skirting the law.

What about Dropbox, Snapchat, Square, WhatsApp, Pinterest, Palantir, etc?

Its hard to counter an argument that includes vague terms like "most".

Some companies do what you're describing.

Some companies who are trying to "disrupt an established company" are doing so because they're leveraging new technology, changes in the marketplace, and/or the fact that they're unencumbered with politics/contracts/bureaucracy that exist in large companies.

Its obviously something that varies from job to job, company to company. But in my experience, these are by far the cushiest of jobs.

Supporting legacy products in a large company.

> No one interprets paleo literally

I have done crossfit in the past and have many friends who still actively participate. The majority of them do take paleo literally.

The reality is, I think, that it varies from box to box, community to community.

IMO this isn't really a problem that can be solved via Personal-Stylist-as-a-Service or a Trunk Club type offering.

Engineers dress like shit because they don't prioritize personal appearance very highly. The only thing that will fix this is to get an engineer to prioritize personal appearance more.

This is what I was going to say, myself.

If you want top talent you have to pay for it. Period. Even if the job is unpleasant, money can solve the problem. "Reasonable rates considering local cost of living" doesn't sound at all enticing.

The problem is compounded by the fact that you can work remotely for a SV company and get a comparatively high rate. If someone were talented and "stuck" in a flyover state, why would they work for this company compared to working remotely for a SV company?

If his code is sub-par, the professional response would be to make comments on his commits and/or otherwise try to provide guidance/mentorship. Not completely strip out his code behind his back and replace it.

The problem here actually sounds like this coworker is used to working alone and doesn't know how to work on a team.

Question for those with knowledge -- would a 60-ish year old sample still be virulent/communicable/whatever?

That is true, but you also do have to take actions that generate that default good credit. In many cases no credit == bad credit. Hence the question OP asked.

> Unless you're taking out a mortgage tomorrow I don't really see why it matters.

Because it does? Apartments often do credit checks. Utilities run checks on you and require down payments for bills if your credit is too low. If you want a "nicer" credit card (Amex, for example), you have to have good credit. Starting a business and want a small business loan? They check your credit history if your business doesn't have a history. Etc..

Credit, at least in America, does matter. Can you get by without it? Of course. But having good credit is pretty easy to do and can have nice benefits.

On the flip side of that coin, I've watched people take 1-2 months of vacation within their unlimited vacation policy.

It really depends on who you're working for.

1 and 2) Not just that. In most countries, a freelance wage and salaried wage are different. For a freelance wage, you're paying for things out of pocket (taxes, benefits, etc) that your employer is required to pay for instead if you were salaried. You can't just do the math of $30/h * 40 hours * 50 weeks/year = your salary. It overlooks so much of the overhead costs of freelancing.

3) I'll readily admit that this point was anecdotal from me. But as someone who has worked with many both "good" and "bad" offshore ESL freelance developers, I can definitively say that the good ones asked for a competitive wage while the bad ones were asking for pennies on the dollar. It was really self-segmenting in this way.

You should raise your rates and get off of oDesk. Though it sounds like that's what you're about to do, with TopTal. If you're a reasonably experienced Rails developer with strong English skills and you're not charging at least 100USD/hour, you're underpaid.

Let me put it like this. I did an oDesk rate analysis. 5 star developers in my niche charge SIGNIFICANTLY less than I am right now, and I'm considering raising rates.

You might be making a fine living. But I suspect that if you're a good developer on oDesk, you'd be making a lot more off of oDesk.

1) Freelance $30/hour is absolutely not equivalent to a salary of 5400.

2) Assuming 100% utilization is completely unrealistic. Does this frontend dev ever want to take vacation or take a sick day? Does the time that they spend searching for new clients not count towards utilization? Etc..

3) Every actually good developer with excellent English skills I've ever run across from lower cost markets like Eastern Europe, Asia and South America all charge full high cost market rates.

You don't. Or if you do, you're lucky and/or you wait in line for them.

Good developers don't use oDesk to find freelance work. They have a good enough reputation to find work through their professional network. oDesk is a race to the bottom where you compete on price instead of skills. Its a market for lemons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Market_for_Lemons)

I'm a contractor and I wouldn't touch oDesk with a 10 ft pole.

I don't think you read me correctly.

I agree with the facts and premise he presents. A Tessel is a toy. It is not going to teach you C, Assembly, or any of the realities of hardware development.

I disagree with the premise that this is a bad thing. I disagree with the premise that people are buying Tessels with the intent to create production grade products. This is literally a toy for people who want to screw around with hardware. This is not a bad thing.

Would you give people shit for buying some Lego Mindstorms to do the same thing instead of a Tessel?

Seriously, who cares? Why is there a badge of pride on our industry being hard? Its not like using a Tessel is something grandmas can do. Why is it a requirement for someone to know how to wire up a LED without blowing it? Software has become huge specifically because you don't need to know Assembly or even C to build real things that people can use.

If anything, you would think that you'd be overjoyed. People would hypothetically try to create products with these "child's toys" and give people like you a more robust job market and salary prospects. Or they wouldn't and it doesn't affect you at all.

Dude. You need to get some perspective on this.

People are not going to buy a Tessel to build a production-grade hardware project. It is for hobbyists.

Because hardware is hard. There's a learning curve that requires a time investment before you can do anything cool. Anything that starts to tear down that learning curve is a step in the right direction.

Do you honestly think that there is anyone out there who bought a Tessel instead of an Arduino/Raspberry/etc.? Every single person I know who ordered a Tessel is someone who wasn't interested in hardware originally AT ALL. The premise of the Tessel got them interested in playing around with hardware.

Edit: I answered this seriously because I assumed OP was a serious comment. After re-reading, I'm not certain, so I apologize if it wasn't.

Lower barrier of entry for people interested in playing around with hardware development. No breadboards and wires, only pluggable modules. Javascript instead of C.