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I'm old enough to remember when traffic was expensive, so I've no idea how they've managed to offer free hosting for so many models. Hopefully it's backed by a sustainable business model, as the ecosystem would be meaningfully worse without them.
We still need good value hardware to run Kimi/GLM in-house, but at least we've got the weights and distribution sorted.
- Has won Freestyle WC
- Has won SCC
- Has won 2x Titled Tuesday's
- Has won a Freestyle Friday
Hikaru can snipe a win off Magnus here and there, but I don't think there's any time control or format where he could win a long series of chess matches against Magnus.
We'll see how well he does in Candidates this year to see if he's still a top contender. Although I do believe this is his last chance to fight for the world title.
- $10/mo: 100 prompts / 5 hours
- $20/mo: 300 prompts / 5 hours
- $50/mo: 1000 prompts / 5 hours
[1] https://platform.minimax.io/docs/guides/pricing-coding-plan
Not self-hosting yet, but I prefer using Chinese OSS models for AI workflows because of the potential to self-host in future if needed. Also using it to power my openclaw assistant since IMO it has the best balance of speed, quality and cost:
> It costs just $1 to run the model continuously for an hour at 100 tokens/sec. At 50 tokens/sec, the cost drops to $0.30.
No one's running these large models on a Mac Mini.
> Of course if you buy some overpriced Apple hardware it’s going to take years to break even.
Great, where can I find cheaper hardware that can run GLM 5's 745B or Kimi K2.5 1T models? Currently it requires 2x M3 Ultras (1TB VRAM) to run Kimi K2.5 at 24 tok/s [1] What are the better value alternatives?
I've got a lite GLM sub $72/yr which would require 138 years to burn through the $10K M3 Ultra sticker price. Even GLM's highest cost Max tier (20x lite) at $720/yr would buy you ~14 years.
I've got subs for both and whilst GLM is better at coding, I end up using MiniMax a lot more as my general purpose fast workhorse thanks to its speed and excellent tool calling support.
[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1r1snhv/deepsee...
But I did the napkin math on M3 Ultra ROI when DeepSeek V3 launched: at $0.70/2M tokens and 30 tps, a $10K M3 Ultra would take ~30 years of non-stop inference to break even - without even factoring in electricity. You clearly don't self-host to save money. You do it to own your intelligence, keep your privacy, and not be reliant on a persistent internet connection.
Despite having many great options, I end up making use of all 3. MiniMax is my fast workhorse for tool calling and getting quick responses. GLM for all coding tasks whilst Kimi K2.5 1T model has deep knowledge for everything else, with an Opus-level command of the english language. There's been many times where I've preferred Kimi K2.5 over Opus.
> A new model is now available on http://chat.z.ai.
Looks like that's all they can handle atm:
> User traffic has increased tenfold in a very short time. We’re currently scaling to handle the load.
I know it doesn't make financial sense to self-host given how cheap OSS inference APIs are now, but it's comforting not being beholden to anyone or requiring a persistent internet connection for on-premise intelligence.
Didn't expect to go back to macOS but they're basically the only feasible consumer option for running large models locally.
Although as llms-py is a local web App I had to build my own visual indicator [2] which also displays a red microphone next to the prompt when it's recording. It also supports both Tap On/Off and hold down for recording modes. When using voxtype I'm just using the tool for transcription (i.e. not Omarchy OS-wide dictation feature) like:
$ voxtype transcribe /path/to/audio.wav
If you're interested the Python source code to support multiple voice transcription backends is at: [3]
[1] https://learn.omacom.io/2/the-omarchy-manual/107/ai
[2] https://llmspy.org/docs/features/voice-input
[3] https://github.com/ServiceStack/llms/blob/main/llms/extensio...
In the end Omarchy's new support for voxtype.io provided the nicest UX, followed by Whisper.cpp, and despite being slower, OpenAI's Whisper is still a solid local transcription option.
Also very impressed with both the performance and price of Mistral's new Voxtral Transcription API [2] - really fast/instant and really cheap ($0.003/min), IMO best option in CPU/disk-constrained environments.
[1] https://llmspy.org/docs/features/voice-input
[2] https://docs.mistral.ai/models/voxtral-mini-transcribe-26-02
It's definitely the superior OS for modern development and general system admin, WSL/Docker always felt like an uncanny valley kludge.
But you can just select the Image Generation model you prefer to use directly [1]. Currently supports Google, Open AI, OpenRouter, Chutes, Z.ai and Nvidia.
I tried Replicate's MCP, but it looks like everything but generate images which I didn't understand, surely image generation would be its most sought after feature?
I use llms .py as a personal assistant and MCP is required to access tools available via MCP.
MCP is a great way to make features available to AI assistants, here's a couple I've created after enabling MCP support:
- https://llmspy.org/docs/mcp/gemini_gen_mcp - Give AI Agents ability to generate Nano Banana Images or generate TTS audio
- https://llmspy.org/docs/mcp/omarchy_mcp - Manage Omarchy Desktop Themes with natural language
I will say there's a noticable delay in using MCP vs tools, where I ended up porting Anthropic's node filesystem MCP to Python [1] to speed up common AI Assistant tasks, so their not ideal for frequent access of small tasks, but are great for long running tasks like Image/Audio generation.
[1] https://github.com/ServiceStack/llms/blob/main/llms/extensio...
Antigravity / Google AI Pro is much better value, been using it as my primary IDE assistant for a couple months and have yet to hit a quota limit on my $16/mo sub (annual pricing) which also includes a tonne of other AI perks inc. Nano Banana, TTS, NotebookLM, storage, etc.
No need to use Anthropic's premium models for tool calling when Gemini/MiniMax are better value models that still perform well.
I still have a Claude Pro plan, but I use it much less than Antigravity and thanks to Anthropic axing their sub usage, I no longer use it outside of CC.
https://github.com/ServiceStack/llms/tree/main/llms/extensio...
It's run in the same process, there's no long agent loops, everything's encapsulated within a single message thread.