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Building http://codeflow.co/. mail: murukesh<at>codeflow.co.

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murukesh_s··on The current hype around autonomous agents, and what actually works in production
>the stuff it produces is shit

Not everyone has that opinion. I am not talking about non programmers jumping on the bandwagon but real technologists using it in real world programming [1].

> our brain goes into "watching TV mode"

How many people would have thought the same when calculator came? We can either think like - oh this tool is making kids dumb or you can think like the new tool can make them faster and efficient.

[1] https://antirez.com/news/154

murukesh_s··on AI groups spend to replace low-cost 'data labellers' with high-paid experts
Well that was the idea of "open"AI isn't it [1]?

[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20190224031626/https://blog.open...

murukesh_s··on The current hype around autonomous agents, and what actually works in production
You are misunderstanding coding vs logic. Coding is making our logic (which is creativity) fit into someone else's syntax. If a machine is able to translate your logic expressed in your language into running code, whats wrong? Common thats our dream isn't it? Its like you not using calculator because you are worried kids won't learn how to divide. Is assembly language better than C++? Yes - did that prevented high level languages from taking over the world? No.

If done right we all code through spec written in English, not code.

murukesh_s··on Java was not underhyped in 1997 (2021)
And almost all of them are trained in Java, .NET, SAP, Oracle etc. May be 0.05 % get trained in Rust or Go lang for some specialised requirements within a business division or so..
murukesh_s··on Java was not underhyped in 1997 (2021)
Yup, I was also in for a surprise. I waited a decade for Java to be dethroned but no.

https://digitalcareers.infosys.com/infosys/global-careers?lo...

Just search for Rust or Go lang you can know why. Infosys employs 350,000 employees and almost all of them working for Fortune 500 companies. There is no single Rust or Go opening from what i can see. Go and Rust did not even make it into the dropdown.

> top Fortune companies recruit from consulting companies often

If you have worked in large Banks, Pharma, Automobile (IT), FMCGs you know. There will be a couple of middle managers onsite (i.e. in US) and rest of the devs, often hundreds of, are located in the offshore (Asia/South America).

murukesh_s··on The current hype around autonomous agents, and what actually works in production
I am also building an agent framework and also used chat coding (not vibe coding) to generate work - I was easily able to save 50% of my time just by asking GPT.

But it generates mistakes like say 1 in 10 times and I do not see it getting fixed unless we drastically change the LLM architecture. In future I am sure we will have much more robust systems if the current hype cycle doesn't ruin its trust with devs.

But the hit is real, I mean I would hire a lot less If i were to hire now as I can clearly see the dev productivity boost.. Learning curve for most of the topics are also drastically reduced as the loss in Google search result quality is now supplemented by LLMs.

But thing I can vouch for is automation and more streamlined workflows. I mean having normal human tasks being augmented by an LLM in a workflow orchestration framework. The LLM can return its confidence % along with the task results and for anything less than ideal confidence % the workflow framework can fall back on a human. But if done correctly with proper testing, guardrails and all, I can see LLM is going to replace human agents in several non-critical tasks within such workflows.

The point is not replacing humans but automating most of the work so the team size would reduce. For e.g. large e-commerce firms have 100s of employees manually verifying product description, images etc, scanning for anything from typos to image mismatch to name a few. I can see LLMs going to do their job in future.

murukesh_s··on Java was not underhyped in 1997 (2021)
Java is still the only go-to language for almost all of the fortune 100 (or 500) companies other than perhaps .Net. No other languages including Go, Rust (Difficult to get devs from consulting companies), Python, Typescript (Considered inferior by enterprise backend dev bros) are being used for building core backend APIs. Almost all the devs for these large enterprises are outsourced from large consulting companies like Infosys, Accenture, TCS, Wipro etc and all of them are still doing Java. I know it by working in large Banks and later trying to sell a non-Java platform to these companies and failing just because it was not written in Java..

Also most of the large enterprises need distributed transactions as they use multiple databases and message queues in a monolith architecture - and no other language have the lib/tooling that can beat Java.

murukesh_s··on Java was not underhyped in 1997 (2021)
Java served it purpose and served it well.. remember it was replacing large mainframe systems and developers needed their fair share of confidence - Types, JIT compiler, JDBC, JMS, EJB (I hated it though - but had the "enterprise" word in it to sell!), transactions, especially distributed transactions which was uncommon in other languages. In many languages the logic was scattered across multiple libs and frameworks - providing inconsistencies.

Even now in fortune 100 I don't think they use anything other than Java to perform daily tasks. Yea they are now more open to use Python for ML related tasks and Node.js for compiling React and all but anything backend its Java

murukesh_s··on XSLT – Native, zero-config build system for the Web
Sometimes I wish we could have kept XML alive alongside JSON.. I miss the comments, CDATA etc, especially when you have to serialize complex state. I know there are alternatives to JSON like YAML but I felt XML was better than YAML. We adopted JSON for its simplicity but tried to retrofit schema and other things that made XML complex. Like we kind of reinvented JSON Schema, and ended up like what XSD did decades ago and still lacking a good alternative to XSLT..
murukesh_s··on A look at Cloudflare's AI-coded OAuth library
What about generating testable code? I mean you mentioned detecting subtle bugs in generated code - I too have seen similar - but what if that was found via generated test cases than found by a human reviewers? Of course the test code could have bugs, but I can see a scenario in the future where all we do is review the tests output instead of scrutinising the generated code...
murukesh_s··on Zero-Downtime Kubernetes Deployments on AWS with EKS
Yea RDS makes your life easy, notifications and easy application of security patches both OS and DB level (minor version upgrades). Easy upgrade of major versions, easy upgrade of storage, RAM and compute (but not so easy to downgrade), easy options for replication, Blue/Green deployments etc to name a few.
murukesh_s··on Thank HN: My bootstrapped startup got acquired today
I think it was a time when bootstrapping was a thing.. I feel its scary for new startups to bootstrap since the last decade with huge fundings, especially with funding in billions becoming a normal with the ongoing AI craze.

https://news.crunchbase.com/ai/largest-ai-startup-funding-de...

murukesh_s··on Thank HN: My bootstrapped startup got acquired today
Wow congrats Paras! such an inspiring journey you had..
murukesh_s··on TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users
I don't know exact figures, but when Tiktok was banned, Instagram was really popular - due to being pushed by Facebook, which was really really popular in India by then. None of my friends were on Tiktok, but all where there on Instagram. The reels thing was not popular but Facebook linked the account automatically and you just keep adding Facebook friends there as well.

Tiktok had a better algorithm (to get hooked) but Instagram eventually caught up (with algo)..

murukesh_s··on Thank You, Airbnb
I think having monopoly in the domain leads to this, similar to Netflix/Google/Facebook etc. Would love to have more competition in the space. Wonder whats preventing a competing platform to emerge, at least country/continent wise?
murukesh_s··on Thank You, Airbnb
> I really wonder who is still using Airbnb.

I guess people who are looking for short term rentals but not yet in the country/area, especially families with kids. I booked via Airbnb because that was the only way I could book my stay at another country before traveling with kids. Of course if i am staying for several months, i would look around in local listings too..

murukesh_s··on Popular gut probiotic craps out in randomized controlled trial
>I have had similar experience where my gut health was immediately, noticeably better in Europe. I was eating the same foods and somehow it was better.

Could be due to you being in a better mental state. Gut-brain axis is very evident for me personally. If I am tense gut is the first to get affected.

murukesh_s··on Forbes Marketplace: The Parasite SEO Company Trying to Devour Its Host
if there is a trial period better get cheapest and highly reviewed mattress. Even if it's a scam you get to know it within x days and can return it.

I try to buy natural materials like latex or cotton - which cannot and are not mass produced (difficult to roll and transport from across the world)

murukesh_s··on Synthetic diamonds are now purer, more beautiful, and cheaper than mined
Not at that time when the diamonds were mined only from one mine in the entire world for several hundreds of thousands of years.
murukesh_s··on Synthetic diamonds are now purer, more beautiful, and cheaper than mined
>They never had any value

They had immense value in ancient world. They were valued much more than gold - due to their rarity. Southern India was the only known source for mining diamonds in ancient world [1]. They were used as currency and was valued higher than gold. In fact there were wars fought for diamonds.

There is a saying about Koh-i-Noor, one of the most famous Diamond - "If a strong man were to throw four stones – one north, one south, one east, one west, and a fifth stone up into the air – and if the space between them were to be filled with gold, all would not equal the value of the Koh-i-Noor" [2].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golconda_diamonds

[2] https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/16/koh-i-...

murukesh_s··on Humans 1, Chimps 0: Correcting the Record
That is because you have basic understanding of numbers. Tribes may not have that.
murukesh_s··on Humans 1, Chimps 0: Correcting the Record
>two university students to a level superior to the chimpanzee

yea, and university students? would have been fair comparison if they tried to train members from some tribe who haven't been exposed to schooling,.

murukesh_s··on FDA clears first over-the-counter continuous glucose monitor
At some point a person's body may become resistant to insulin and start to need more insulin to have normal functioning (pre-diabetes), sometimes this causes large variation in glucose levels, though not as drastic as taking a medication. Eventually your body would adapt to it when you reach the diabetes phase.
murukesh_s··on It's OK to abandon your side-project
Could you share the link to what you have built? Would love to take a look..

>developers are focused on a tiny number of tools

Thats marketing. You think the market is saturated but we often see one new product comes and capture the entire market. Sometimes small changes like change of Licensing can swing users away from dominant players.

murukesh_s··on It's OK to abandon your side-project
I thought it was the other way around nowadays, the 'lean' way?. Correct me if I am wrong, I thought founders are encouraged to pivot if can't find market fit early.
murukesh_s··on Sora: Creating video from text
I think you can fill-in many scenes for the actor - perhaps a dupe but would look like the real actor - of course the original actor would have to be paid, but perhaps much less as the effort is reduced.
murukesh_s··on I think I need to go lie down
This comment is so relevant.. people underestimate software complexity. In software services, often it's not the algorithms that are hard to implement or maintain, as they often have very clearly defined input and output requirements, and you can and test them, but its the ever changing and regularly patched up business logic that evolves the system into a complex and fragile service needing careful maintenance.. Can't imagine an AI system taking 'charge' there as a subtle mistake by the AI system would then need a human intervention to 'fix' it which by then would be close to impossible. At that point you can't also make use of AI beyond a co-pilot role as anything complex would need line by line and careful inspection by a software dev.
murukesh_s··on Sam Altman’s Worldcoin Token to Launch Monday
Exactly, can a (small) startup CEO do this? Will the investors approve?
murukesh_s··on A daytime nap is good for the brain
> the whole office shuts down after work

At noon? or evening?

murukesh_s··on Try Galaxy: A web app to demo Samsung’s OS on an iPhone
will only launch if you add it to the home screen.
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