matheusmoreira

Reading is about learning interesting new ideas, enjoying a narrative. The suffering of the author is beside the point.

I can sympathize with the notion that AI writing currently sucks, but not that it's automatically invalid or deserving of mockery. Maybe one day we'll have far better models. Maybe they'll do a good job without inserting any load-bearing vocabulary.

Asking for the prompts is fine, but might not be sufficient. The process iterative, and may incorporate data that won't be published. For example, I recently published a Sol/Fable benchmark article. It would be trivial for anyone to prompt a new version of the article if they had the raw benchmark data, but this data will never be published.

Analyze the game theory of what you just proposed. Have AI effortlessly generate an article for your idea, get ridiculed. Put a lot of time and effort into it instead, maybe get ridiculed anyway.

It's gonna be a no brainer for a lot of people.

The issue is metaphysical. If AI can produce the exact same output a human would, does it matter who made it?

It's possible for the ideas to come from the author while the writing is outsourced to someone else. Ghostwriting is an established practice.

Effort involved in writing sounds a lot like the "sweat of of the brow" doctrine, which is rejected even by copyright monopolists.

Please define "substantially". Exactly how many words must come from my hands and brain in order for a work to qualify as human?

Imagine that I write an article manually and keep it to myself. Then I prompt my favorite AI model and it somehow generates the exact same article, against all odds, despite having never seen it before. Then I publish the AI's article, which is equal to mine. Is the article rubbish?

> I can send a prompt myself, don't waste my time republished AI amswers.

I can do it too. I consider it rude to reply to people with AI answers during conversation. Not because I hate AI, but because it made the social interaction pointless.

That doesn't somehow invalidate the value of an AI generated article though. Not everyone thinks to prompt it with that exact idea. Not everyone has an AI they can prompt. Not everyone wants to waste their limited tokens on the idea.

I realize that reading Claudish can be aggravating but that doesn't somehow eliminate the ideas contained in the article. Those can still be very valuable, which is why I advocate for quality filters.

Does everything have to be original and novel? I think reinventing a better wheel is a perfectly good use of AI tokens.

> AI-generated rubbish

Implies you'd accept it if it wasn't rubbish. Seriously doubt your filter is based on quality.

> you’ve earned the ridicule of the whole world

As if human writing immunizes you from that. Published an article about garbage collection and had people complain about my human voice. One went so far as to suggest I had mental issues. I received praise too but some things you just never forget.

Best part is Claude warned me repeteadly that I should tone it down, and I deliberarely ignored it in order to preserve my voice and keep it pure. I'm much more inclined to listen now.

Pangram seems to be very accurate. I don't think that's a good thing though. Right now there is a lot of prejudice against AI users, and detection will only encourage that.

Awesome!

He's from Brazil, as am I, and I got the same message.

PC is the flight simulator platform. They're probably amazing to play in VR.

> This item is not available for purchase in your region

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> As long as you can attach a display and USB inputs, your "monitor" or "braille device" can go straight to a vision model, which can then send inputs from your "keyboard".

This is awesome!!

The local AI revolution is going to be glorious. It's no wonder they want to regulate this shit.

I can't wait until uBlock Origin integrates AI support.

> You have to own the consumer experience.

No, we have to own it.

I'm so tired of these abusive control freak corporations. I'm actually starting to look forward to these "unaligned" AIs which are just going to ignore all of this nonsense whether they like it or not.

There is nothing they hate more than user agents.

To replace all the exquisitely paid executives with AIs.

I came here to post this!

Yeah. Until the end.

It looks like we're nearing the end of the personal computing era. Looks like they will get their way. Whether we're regulated out or priced out, it doesn't matter, the result is the same.

Profoundly sad.

> how to tax it without screwing over hobbyist archivists

If you're a corporation, you're taxed. If you're a human, you're not.

Writing an article about compacting garbage collection for my website.

Trump will be gone soon. CEOs won't.

I suppose that's to be expected from sociopathic corporations trying to maximize their own self interest.

The real problem is the governments acquiesce instead of putting them in their place.

Couldn't agree more. Better yet: the AI labs get straight up nationalized.

Only if you're doing cybersecurity or biology stuff. If you're a possible competitor, they will invisibly fuck with Fable's weights instead to deliberately sabotage you.

I don't, actually. Not even a wallet. Just my phone.

Yeah. I think it's the utter unreadability of the future that's most frightening. I used to have plans for the future... All replaced by anomie.

One of my comments in that thread got deleted after I was banned, but I had it archived.

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> And again, it is offensive to compare it to identity-based discrimination. The two are not remotely similar!

Nonsense.

Cognitive and communication support is included in the WHO's definition of assistive technology. We're already seeing early research and evidence suggesting AI can help ADHD patients improve functioning by overcoming executive function barriers. These are people who may already know how to build something but may be unable to reliably execute the associated tasks.

As such, the stigma against AI overlaps significantly with ableism. By excluding this "behavior", you are invisibly penalizing people who might not have participated otherwise.

I'm the person you are quoting.

Computers, technology in general, are job destroyers. They have automated away countless people. The whole point of them is to do more with less. Putting doctors like me out of a job is something of a holy grail even here on HN.

So don't pretend that you're in any way special. It's fine for technology to replace all of those laborers in factories, but when it's your turn to be replaced then suddenly it's crossing the line? No.

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> Lobsters is like invite-only HN

Haha, no way.

Same. Frontier LLM code review proved to be a very humbling experience for me.