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But... expensive? Really? A one-off cost (not a subscription, mind) for a tool that might make an expensive developer/data person even marginally more productive? You have to be kidding. It blows my mind how much developers, who of all users should be the ones who appreciate how much work goes into something like this, complain so often about the cost of basic tools.
I didn't say that. But they're not fully autonomous.
We aren’t arguing about pure autonomy, we are arguing about the method by which humans resolve the problems.
This whole subthread started with the assertion:
Just like we will never have fully self-driving cars...
So we did start out by discussing whether current Waymo is fully autonomous or not. It then devolved into nit-picking, but that was where the conversation started.
FWIW I agree that Waymo is an amazing achievement that will only get better. I don't know (or care, frankly) if they will ever be fully autonomous. If I could, I'd buy one of those cars right now, and pay a subscription to cover the cost of the need for someone to help the car out when it needs it. But it's incorrect to say that they don't need human operators, when they clearly currently do.
The companies do not advertise this feature out loud too much, but they do acknowledge it, and the reports are that it happens somewhere between every one to two miles traveled.
That’s… not very autonomous.
Yes, they do, the term to search is “remote assistance operator”. e.g. https://philkoopman.substack.com/p/all-robotaxis-have-remote...
https://news.gallup.com/poll/467792/social-media-users-incli...
U.S. adults commonly engage with popular social media platforms but are more inclined to browse content on those websites and apps than to post their own content to them. The vast majority of those who say they use these platforms have accounts with them, but less than half who have accounts -- and even smaller proportions of all U.S. adults -- post their own content.
https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2019/04/24/sizing-up-tw...
Most users rarely tweet, but the most prolific 10% create 80% of tweets from adult U.S. users
https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2021/11/15/the-behavior...
The analysis also reveals another familiar pattern on social media: that a relatively small share of highly active users produce the vast majority of content.
This was my initial reaction as well, before reading the interview in full. They admit that there are problems with the approach, but they seem to have designed the simulation in a very thoughtful way. There really doesn't seem to be a better approach, apart from enlisting vast numbers of people instead of using LLMs/agent systems. That has its own problems as well of course, even leaving cost and difficulty aside.
There’s no option to create original content...
While this is true, I'd say the vast majority of users don't create original content either, but still end up shaping the social media environment through the actions that they did model. Again, it's not perfect but I'm more convinced that it might be useful after reading the interview.
Ahhhhahahaha… “user friendly”. When compared to coding the repo by hand, I guess.
One thing that would be interesting to explore would be a feed that integrated over a longer timeframe. For example, I subscribe to the guardian weekly, and I like it much more than the daily homepage. News that survives a week tends to be more newsworthy, and there's more scope for the beginnings of retrospective analysis. It would be interesting to be able to play with that timeframe - what does a 3 day window look like, or a 1 month one?
You have fewer annoying people pointing out logical problems with your policies.
I'm not affiliated with the project, but I think that PocketFlow is really nice, and I love the example projects Zachary uses.
Edit: There was also some interesting critical feedback on the produced documentation: https://technicalwriting.dev/ml/pocketflow/index.html