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The days of using a separate IDE for each language are kind of over.
These very paradigms are outdated these days. vscode got it, very early. vscode works for everything. Most projects use Python/Go and JS, and out of the box vscode just works for all these languages and their tools.
vscode seems to have totally taken over dev mindshare these days.
The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their correct name
- Confucius
They need to call this tankcellfillet or something on those lines. Companies must not be allowed to get away to slap the tag healthy on clearly harmful foods and get away.
Most of Boeing's Ls seem to have come from quality issues, and that seems to come downstream to cutting spending on engineering, testing and in general overall technical ecosystem.
There is no point in making 20 or even 200 new planes, if you don't make them well.
“People think focus means saying yes to the thing you've got to focus on. But that's not what it means at all. It means saying no to the hundred other good ideas that there are. You have to pick carefully. I'm actually as proud of the things we haven't done as the things I have done. Innovation is saying no to 1,000 things.” - Steve Jobs
We might even end up increasing the demand and pay for devs if this happens to pass.
Eventually whoever that is running the business has to be smart enough to figure out everything, and the margin for error will be small in a economic environment where every one is already poor and can't spend to buy your things.
I remember the days of socialist India. If everyone is poor its impossible to do the good things like research, development, innovation. The reason is simple, with no one having money to buy your things, you will never make profits to invest in them.
The one's that companies offer are quite good, actually.
I'd have depleted my life savings, and gone bankrupt several times around COVID years with my parents health, if I didn't have company health insurance.
Good for me, because I knew people in hospital sitting in the waiting lobby literally crying because they were done financially. Like finished for life.
Having said, this in India the market for this things is still building up, and given how big India is it will take years before it reaches the US stage of profit seeking.
Yes, its quite thing even today. The banners tend to tear and fly away due to high winds.
So painting is still a thing in pretty much all over India. I even knew a neighbour who would do it. Like he painted our street address on our home. He also did many such things on highways.
Not sure if you know this, most such painters are illiterates and will have a hard time writing anything by hand. So its less of a font painting, more like a art form for them.
Only a while back, even movie posters were painted and quite honestly they would be stunning. I have seen them as a kid and would inspire awe.
On a tangential note, a classmate of mine had a flare for it, and he even did some projects with making huge mega massive stunning artistic displays with paint and thermocol, not sure what he is doing now, but back then those things looked quite impressive.
These sort of questions are far too common in these companies.
I have once been rejected by a company here in Bangalore, for not reading the interviewer's favourite paper(The one Google published on BigTable). Which according to him was so important anyone who hadn't read it and re-read it several times like him couldn't possibly be a coder.
This is despite finishing the take home assignment, implementing 3 more features onsite, more code review sessions, general interview sessions.
Some people are not serious about getting work done, and whatever they are claiming to do with hiring people. Unfortunately they are neither looking to hire people to get the work done, nor hiring the best.
But if you want a near 100% automation, you need precise way to specify what you want, else there is no reliable way interpreting what you mean. And by that definition lots of regression/breakage has to be endured everytime a release is made.
Many people grossly underestimate restarting a stopped process which took tremendous inertia to get rolling at the first place.
For all practical purposes its almost like you permanently lose the ability.
Vibe coding might be fast, but thats only if you wish to pretend that coders deploy to production directly within minutes of writing code without product discussions, automated builds, CI/CD, code review, production testing, UAT, regression testing, security testing etc.
In reality when you factor in all these things, which are absolutely necessary if you don't want you product to break every new release and lose users permanently. You have to do the same drills as you always did.
To that end, unless you are building something very large, coding velocity is largely irrelevant.
You need some of way of precisely telling AI what to do. As it turns out there is only that much you can do with text. Come to think of it, you can write a whole book about a scenery, and yet 100 people will imagine it quite differently. And still that actual photograph would be totally different compared to the imagination of all those 100 people.
As it turns out if you wish to describe something accurately enough, you have to write mathematical statements, in other words statements that reduce to true/false answers. We could skip to the end of the discussion here, and say you are better of either writing code directly or test cases.
This is just people revisiting logic programming all over again.
Isn't that logic programming/Prolog?
You basically write the sequence of conditions(i.e tests in our lingo) that have to be true, and the compiler(now AI) generates code for your.
Perhaps there has to be a relook on how Logic programming can be done in the modern era to make this more seamless.
Are you saying people who don't willingly offer to become punching bags for abusive people are fascists?
I'd rather be treated nice by a bot, than be abused by a human. Make whatever of this you will.
Though I know the bot is not sentient. I'd rather chat with it, than some human who doesn't talk well.
Im guessing the future of relationships works the same way. All the best competing with a bot that makes you feel nice, than a spouse/partner who doesn't.
It will be a hard era to come for people who misbehave. The tolerance for that sort of stuff is going to go away entirely.
HN's power is its simplicity. We don't need any of those features.
This is one of those rare old internet places that still has no feature clutter, ads and other distracting and irritating UI elements.
Sometimes something works fine and it doesn't need to be changed.
Every time I needed to write something algorithmically demanding, I could do it in a day or two. Im not into Leetcoding, or competitive coding.
Most regular everyday programmers can work these things out in one or two workdays.
Its definitely not like the competitive programmers say, like if you aren't into this full time, at the time you need to write something you won't have access to time, internet and even an IDE and have to write the code in a Google doc(which needs internet connection, when I pointed this out in the interviews they didn't like it).
Using your analogy, what this means is, we have to make humans to make human like intelligence. Not that we can make human like intelligence out side of humans.
>>Given that, there's no particular reason to think that "what the brain does" OR a reasonably close approximation, can't be done on another "system based on the laws of our physical universe."
What exactly does the brain do? Part of the problems with this is language itself might be insufficient to describe intelligence. And Language might be working a level below our thought. There are occasions where even the best of us fail to come up with how we think. We can go close and its not enough. A picture is better than a thousand words - why? Perhaps language is enough to display signs of intelligence but can't entirely contain or describe it.
Similarly, even in the case of LLMs we have seen showing spatial intelligence is whole lot different than predicting text.
Heck intelligence might not even be one monolithic thing. It could be a collection of several intelligences. And this whole idea of one grand AGI monolith could be wrong.
Anybody who goes up there first will put restrictions on who else can arrive and thrive.
I know an architect, after much encouraging her to use it. She said ChatGPT most of the times would make bedroom window into a rest room. Its kind of hilarious because guessing the next word, and spatial thinking seem to be very different beasts altogether. And in some way might be two different tracks of intelligence. Like two different types of AGI.
A picture is better than thousand words - A saying.
My guess is a picture is better than a infinite words. How do you explain something as it exists, you can use as many words, phrases, metaphors and similes. But really is it possible to describe something in words and have two different people, or even a computer program not imagine it very differently?
Another way of looking at this is language itself might be several layers below intelligence. If you see you can go close but never accurate describe what you are thinking. If that is the case we are truly cooked and might never have AGI itself as there is only that far you can represent something you don't understand by guessing.
Im guessing for someone in laundry or restaurant business it might be hard to understand how AI could change their lives. And that is true, at least at this stage in the adoption and development of AI. But eventually it will find a way into their business in some form or the other.
There are stages to this. Pretty sure the first jobs to go will be the most easiest. This is the case with Software development too. When people say writing code has gotten easier, they really are talking about projects that were already easy to build getting even more easier. Harder parts of software development are still hard. Making changes to larger code bases with a huge user base comes with problems where writing code is kind of irrelevant. There are bigger issue to address like regression, testing, stability, quality, user adoption etc etc.
Second stage is of course once the easy stuff gets too easy to build. There is little incentive to build it. With modern building techniques we aren't building infinite huts, are we? We pivoted to building sky scrapers. I do believe most of AI's automation gains will be soaked up in the first wave and there will little incentive to build easy stuff and harder stuff will have more productivity demands from people than ever before.
Everything is so fast, no body gets an opportunity to do things slowly and better.
The definition of Communism per the west, is something that always fails by default. The way Chinese define communism is doing whatever it takes to win.
When you remove all the abstract words behind this game, a simple philosophy is if you do the right things you win. You can call it capitalism, communism or whatever you want.
Im guessing lots of code that was getting written was kind of verbose boiler plate, automating all that doesn't move the productivity needle all that much. That shouldn't have existed at all to start with.
Unless you are a coach, and your job is to give feedback. I would advice a) Don't give a feedback ever. b) If you are in a situation and had to give feedback, always say something positive.
Very few people are genuinely interested in improving and largely use feedback as a mechanism to see how people judge their work, and here a negative feedback is simply used to mark up people as enemies.
There are people who are exceptions to this, but this really is the rule.
You don't have to exaggerate the description of anything to send a message, thats the literary equivalent of screaming.