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justsomeoldguy··on Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?
you sound reasonable. the problem is, not everyone is all the time. people make emotional decisions that aren't even supported by laws or ethics. Some people are just mean, some people just want to see the world burn.
justsomeoldguy··on Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?
it really sucks. If I had known I'd lose my jobs the way I did each time, I would never have applied to begin with. it was really traumatic each time, and very sudden. it PTSD'd me, not that I have any shortage of that. But just the way everyone gets when you go from "everyone knows you and respects you and likes you" and suddenly it's ... uhh ohh. everyone being quiet. is this... again?

yes. yes it was. and I just can't do that anymore. that isn't living, it's dying.

justsomeoldguy··on Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?
yeah. but my last name is very unique and there are only five of us in the country. none my age.
justsomeoldguy··on Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?
they do not honor those, sorry. they ask anyways. and if you wanna put up a fight with HR about why they're asking when they can't, you are already fired before you've been hired.
justsomeoldguy··on Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?
Sure but there are laws designed to prevent how far back they are able to look to find thaat information. And the laws aren't even being followed-- the lawyers should be telling them to follow them ... and yet.
justsomeoldguy··on Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?
I think you're missing just how nosy people are these days. If you have a name and it traces back to your case (like mine) then that kind of obfuscation is just not going to work. It hasn't yet.
justsomeoldguy··on Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?
thank you for that, it can be really frustrating to get suggestions when people don't even know what they're suggesting.

Lets say a felon immigrates to germany. their policy is they won't ask. but if they find out you were a felon in the US, at any point in your life, they will immediately deport you. and your life in germany however much you built, is forfeit. yay! at any point in time.

that is not an acceptable risk

justsomeoldguy··on Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?
My job two jobs ago did start out with their eyes open. I was up front about it and it was a question on the application. I wasn't going to lie. They told me it wouldn't be a problem .... and it wasn't. Until someone else found out and wasn't so non-judgemental. that's kind of how this goes-- whoever I first start working with, whoever is doing the hiring, whatever. I get the green light. I get hired even. It's ... what happens next.

You got new coworkers? A lot of people start digging. I don't survive that digging.

Part of the problem is I went to prison for eight years. And I am just a computer nerd with no criminal background, I've never even had a parking ticket. I act like every other nerd in a dev environment. I love hardware, I'm very passionate about operating systems, making them run juust right.

Where it's a problem is when people look me up and are like, holy cow this is a hardened criminal! but I act... so... normal. and you wouldn't guess. it actually flips people out. it feels like I'm lying about a whole lot of things suddenly. I must be. I have to be. and it goes downhill from there. Whatever trust I earned gets taken away because people are judgmental and often not reasonable about that judgement.

justsomeoldguy··on Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?
I've had four great tech jobs since I paroled ... I'm old. You want windows 3.11 for workgroups, or you want server 2019. you want *nix, you want macos, I'm into it all. kubernetes, virtualization, hell I used to run vmware GSX for companies before ESX existed. My resume is very strong, and my skills are good. and.... it isn't enough. not so far. it's going to take someone who knows from the start, somehow.

I've made companies a lot of money in my lifetime. I worked at places like exodus communications, netapp, netcom, @home. Some old names people prolly recognize. I specialize in storage, you want ceph? Ceph and I get along great. My last cluster was over 2 PB and it started out just 150TB.

It's simple in the end, I work for companies, solve their problems, make us all money. Should be simple right?

justsomeoldguy··on Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?
the last state agency I worked with was at utah. and they told me I had a 6% chance of finding a job in the tech industry without someone on the inside. they were very blunt about it, and apologetic. The statistics don't lie and they were like, you are not going to get a tech job before you win the lottery.

Only way I could collect unemployment was if I was working every week to find a new job and putting out applications, and they were helping me. but no one wants to touch me, through those channels. not so far.

justsomeoldguy··on Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?
thank you. moving abroad takes major bank, and I have a partner here where I'm living now. We've got dogs. I'm not leaving everyone behind and we're not moving to another country it's just not in the cards.
justsomeoldguy··on Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?
not presently. but soon. I'm between addresses right now, basically. The last state I lived in wouldn't let me do it

I'll still have a social security number that won't change, and I'll have an alias and anyone who really wants to find my info will find it even with a name change.

What a name change does is get me off a simple google search. which isn't legal, fair credit reporting act defines very clearly what you are and are not allowed to do to investigate potential employees.

and yet, do you really think I can start any business relationship by telling someone they can't do things like look me up? It's effectively what that is, and it's unreasonable.

The industry is still stuck in a "no one knows what to do about this problem"

can't stop people from googling you. but I can change my name ... but it's not going to stop the ones who look futher. and so far, all of them have.

justsomeoldguy··on Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?
moving to another country isn't an option. the only ones I'd be willing to go to won't let felons in. I can't even drive to canada 10 miles from where I live, here at the border, to see friends. no felons are allowed in canada for life. they will arrest you immediately for trying, signs for it everywhere.

I have an LLC. I'm a published author, but sales are nothing I could live off of.

I'm not sure I have what it takes to bootstrap a b2b. It's why I like working with others. I literally enjoy helping other people solve problems. I was an SRE two positions ago and I took on the IT role for an extra 5k/year. and I happily answered calls to change peoples passwords, because it was a small company. and everyone really respected each other. everyone was grateful. I had cards all over my wall that people sent me, thank you cards. covering half of it by the end. this is what I need in life, all I need. I'm old enough now to know the difference between wants and needs.

justsomeoldguy··on Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?
it's been 14 years since my felony, and every IT job I've had started out good but they looked me up. I got a unique name I can't change right now. so they always find me, I've been hired by billion dollar companies for technical member of staff positions paying 165k, only to be fired the day before I was supposed to start.

I can't do it anymore. I can't try anymore. I've tried for years and years and I can't handle this rejection. I can't handle knowing at the drop of a hat I'm gonna lose my job again the moment they find out. I just can't do this anymore. I really can't. I can't be this good, this friendly to people, this competent, and still judged so badly from something that happened while I was on drugs 14 years ago. I've been clean for as many years. It doesn't matter. I've tried explaining, doesn't matter. I've treid playing dumb and hoping the background check won't find it. I've relied on the right-to-be-forgotten laws and the fair credit reporting act-- billion dollar companies still refuse to follow the procedure. they didn't get me any chance to dispute what they found, even when they said they would. And no, suing them doesn't work. No one will take the case and I aint got money for it so no.

there are no solutions. I'm paid to find solutions to any problem... and I have none. I can find none. :(

People judge harsh these days. Good luck, you need it. Even if you get a job, it's a hell of a thing to have a coworker you've worked with for 18 months walk up to you with a printout of your case, saying, is this you? and then he pretends it didn't bother him.

oh it bothered him.

they walked me out not long after that for something seemingly unrelated. that job lasted exactly 2 years.

My next, I got walked out at just 4 months for "defacing company property" yeah I wrote my name on my custom chair they ordered for me. I was financially responsible for that chair, I know because I built the inventory system to keep track of the serial numbers. Do you think this mattered? Hell no. Do you think people cared to reason? nope. they kept a straight face even, said that I was lucky they weren't calling the cops.

well joke was sort of on them. my unemployment claim went before a magistrate and he took one look and said to them, did you get him a chance to wipe it off? and I'm like "I had multiple sovants on hand that would have worked. they never even gave me a chance." and they were like "...." and that was it. ruled in my favor.

but how it left me. it just devestated me. I brought my a game to that job. I grew that company from 29 employees to 165. I had microsoft hybrid local/cloud running and the dell laptops would auto provision all the user had to do was login with their username and password. it all unfolded, installed everything they needed. a perfect image. it was done in 20 minutes. it was amazing, microsoft really has some powerful tools to help IT get new employees working fast.

it just sucks. it sucks more than anything. it's unfair, sure. the world is unfair. but it is beyond unfair. and it has cost me everything ... this latest one just... sent me into a spiral. and I just gave up. I lost all my possessions, a lifetime of them. I just walked. how can I care anymore?

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