jennyholzer

This dynamic is frustrating on the individual level, but it is poisonous on the organizational level.

I am offended by coworkers who submit incompletely considered, visibly LLM generated code.

These coworkers are dragging my team down.

> In post-task interviews:

> 83.3% of LLM users were unable to quote even one sentence from the essay they had just written.

> In contrast, 88.9% of Search and Brain-only users could quote accurately.

> 0% of LLM users could produce a correct quote, while most Brain-only and Search users could.

Reminds me of my coworkers who have literally no idea what Chat GPT put into their PR from last week.

There are dozens of duplicates for pro-AI dreck, so this post should stand.

because the underlying technology is so egregiously overhyped in relation to the quality of the services offered

People who consistently consult LLMs for product direction or software feature design overwhelmingly appear to me as willfully ignorant dullards.

I mean it's even further than willful ignorance. It's delight in one's own ignorance.

I agree. Burn the machines-that-think.

To anyone reading, if you work on LLM software, I hope that your business fails.

i spend a lot of time fixing unacceptably poor code that LLM platforms have tricked human coworkers into finding adequate.

my coworkers are increasingly ignorant about the software products they work on.

LLM-informed software development is organizationally poisonous.

Businesses selling LLM coding tools occupy the same place in my mind as drug dealers.

these companies are destined to fail, just tell the truth about this dog shit technology and watch them flounder.

as a human being i take it as massive disrespect when another human developer makes me wipe up their AI diarrhea.

it's a lot faster and a lot easier and it gives you a much better understanding of the problem if you just think about the changes you want to make and write them yourself.

why are you looking for a shortcut? just do the work.

"write it right the first time" is my new mantra/challenge to myself.

along with improving my skills in vim, this approach has made me significantly more productive and has made my code much simpler compared to when i was using LLM code generation tools.

there is no shortcut around hard work.

there is no shortcut to thoroughly interrogating the constraints of the software problem at hand.

developers who rely on LLM code generation are poor coworkers because they don't understand what they've written and why they've written it.

I'm in this boat. On top of this though, I genuinely think less of developers who rely on LLMs. I very seriously believe that they are beneath me.

a crack pipe is a tool. if you master your tools you become more productive. i've had the same mixed experiences with crack cocaine that others have. some good, some not so great. But i've been writing a lot of crack-fueled PRs in the last weeks. some needed manual intervention. some were tedious to create. and some clearly saved me a lot of work.

it's genuinely embarassing that the printf() diehards in this thread are not clear on this detail.

30% of the articles on this forum are covert LLM advertising

printf() users in this thread are very proud of their own ignorance

I appreciate this perspective.

IMO, the authors and evangelists of Git are essentially correct when they argue about its power.

However, I think that it's extremely difficult to gain practical experience with using Git in a high-powered, high-agency way, mostly because there are a lot of abstract concepts at play and there is no easily accessible place where these concepts can be "discovered".

Basically, Git is as good as it's cracked up to be, but only if you're an expert.

If you're interested in becoming a Git expert, I cannot recommend Emacs Magit strongly enough.

If not, I think Jujutsu could be an quicker road to a high-agency version control workflow. It's at least worth considering. I feel confident that Jujutsu can succeed, in particular because of Git's harsh difficulty curve.

Stacked diffs is a great feature. Thanks for the response!

Are there "central concepts" in the Jujutsu design?

I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around what specific details would cause me to choose Jujutsu over Git, in particular because of Git's industry standard status.

I think this is a very interesting concept, but I think it could go farther with some more targeted marketing along these lines. Of course, if Git power users are not Jujutsu's intended audience, then this comment may be irrelvant.

I think one of Git's great weaknesses is its unfriendliness to newcomers (jargon, deep features, lack of discoverability, lack of accessible GUI frontends), so there's probably a lot of potential for a VC solution that is easier for a newcomer to jump into.

I agree. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt to some extent because existing Git UIs are pretty poor in my opinion. But I'd like to see some more meat on the bone, in particular a demonstration of why this is easier/more powerful/more convenient to use than the alternatives.

I've seen some posts about Jujutsu recently, but I haven't gone deep into specific workflows.

Are there specific advantages to using Jujutsu over Emacs Magit?

All other Git UIs I've used have been severely lacking, but Magit has made me significantly more productive with Git, and has convinced me of the "magic of git".

Is Jujutsu interested in competing with this experience? Or is it intended as an alternative to the (to be clear, extremely poor) git user experiences outside of Emacs?

Why are you so well-versed in these anti-Chinese narratives? Your message reads like you're a victim of anti-Chinese propaganda.

i don't see any indication that either republicans or democrats intend to reindustrialize america

font licensing is expensive

i understand that he did the nazi salute, but it seems disingenuous and unnecessarily provocative to call elon musk a nazi

musk is a kleptocrat/plutocrat who did the nazi salute for the purposes of generating controversy. it seems obvious to me that he's more interested in securing the success of his ventures than anything resembling 20th century fascism.

lmao ai generated response

it's obviously a cabal

somehow i'm not convinced by your argument

speech is heavily, heavily restricted in the united states, in particular on American social media platforms.

there are a massive number of subjects which cannot be spoken about on social media without risking massive deboosting and the blacklisting of your accounts.

this censorship is directed by "former" CIA agents working at all major American social media companies. In other words, this is direct government censorship of private citizens' speech.

we're 20 years into social media 1984 and Americans still want to believe that it's unimaginably worse in China.