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I was confused by that as well…just looks like a bunch of hentai went into a blender.

Yeah…I think Gen AI has a lot of use, but this new biz model is just a new twist on harvesting the commons until it collapses.

They’ll make a quick buck, make it impossible for human creators to make any money, and we’ll be left with an ouroboros eating its own gen ai shit and reconstituting its own output into new training data.

I wish people would quit with the “(existing product name) for (some remotely adjacent thing)” format.

I get it helps to have a bridge from a known thing to the new thing, but the flip side is over use if any framing device makes people instinctively tune out.

I think what bothers me is you can make some pretty cool - and artistically novel - things with gen AI.

But this type of “throw a bunch of random keywords related to the blog/video content and go brrrrr on MidJounrey” is just trash.

Can it though? What apps are people actually using?

Apple is very much not having an iPhone moment with Vision Pro: there is no explosion of creativity or a new market rush. And there may never be one.

Apple treated devs like trash for years and now they have a new platform nobody wants to build on. Oops.

Getting really sick of these AI gen graphics on blog posts and YouTube vids to the point it’s an automatic back click when I see one. I hope it ends.

The fact that pickle even exists is fundamentally wrong to start with. They should not be permitted as a distribution format, period.

Thanks for the rec!

Let’s not forget this technology all comes from IDF spying on Palestinians who basically have no legal rights. Injustice breeds further injustice.

I was looking at their workstation the other day and they have this totally absurd “AI” branding that makes no sense whatsoever.

They are selling machines with GPUs with 4GB VRAM as “AI-Ready”.

If they don’t know system requirements for running basically any LLM or image model, it’s no wonder they are failing.

https://www.dell.com/en-us/dt/ai-technologies/index.htm

https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/workstations-isv-certified/p...

The law is interpreted anew each day. Nothing is outside the law.

Perhaps if all rules were written in stone, and clear of ambiguity, we would not need judges or the legal process. But that’s not how any of this works.

Literally everything about ML training and IP is undecided.

This is an actively litigated and unsettled area of law. You, and nobody else, can say any of this with confidence until these lawsuits get to a judge, and even then it’s per jurisdiction rulings. The US, EU, and Japan may end up with different rulings. International trade agreements may be updated. Industry may settle on some sort of broadly acceptable revenue sharing model.

The point is: nobody knows and the AI companies are getting well ahead of the law.

I think a lot of the license motivation is to have real time information for RAG. I doubt that is being used for foundation training, it’s just not enough volume.

Interesting, I think that’s a totally valid response to this trend of capturing “value” of open source via Cloud Services (for a while now) and Code Gen (more recent).

I think SV is just dead set on killing the golden goose of open source and the web by extracting as much as possible with no regard for the wasteland left behind.

And the same logic of monitoring junior 24x7 will have you putting diapers on an 18 year old.

I have young children and manage just fine without broadcasting their location to a Megacorp with a long history of violating children’s privacy laws.

Precisely, this is such a basic violation of GPL it’s mind boggling they went for it.

This model is more restricted than Mistral and Mixtral - this is a new development from them.

I did not give consent to train on my software and the license does not allow commercial use of it.

They have taken my code and now are dictating how I can use their derived work.

Personally I think these tools are useful, but if the data comes from the commons the model should also belong to the commons. This is just another attempt to gain private benefit from public work.

There are legal issues to be resolved, and there is an explosion of lawsuits already, but the fact pattern is simple and applies to nearly all closed-source AI companies.

But a pill they also have to swallow.

So basically I, as an open source author, had my code eaten up by Mistral without my consent, but if I want to use their code model I’m subject to a bunch of restrictions that benefit their bottom line?

The problem these AI companies have is they live in a glass house and they can’t throw IP rocks around without breaking their own “your content is our training data” foundation.

They only reason I can think of that Google doesn’t go after OpenAI for scraping YouTube is then they’d put themselves in the same crosshairs, and may set a precedent they’d also be bound by.

Given the model is “on the web” I have the same rights as Mistral to use anything online however I want without regard for IP, right?

Utter absurdity.

Look up the concept of mens rea - the intent matters. If you hire somebody because you want a look/voice-alike that is legally distinct from hiring somebody who happens to have a certain voice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_rea

It’s a human with the soul of an AI.

No, they extend to anybody.

Not for commercial purposes and not in California. Otherwise you’d just hire an impersonator and never pay for celebrity endorsement.

Nice of Jeff to do give Sam some free PR crisis management. Class solidarity brings a tear to my eye.

In my experience you can get to nominally working without too much pain, but getting beyond that is very hard no matter what you use. You really need to commit to an ecosystem to get seamless integration.

I’m not happy about this fwiw, just my experience.

Many, perhaps most, successful academics are horrible mentors and parents/spouses. That isn’t pertinent to the fact that all faculty are, in fact, quite busy.

…or capitalization is not really that important for conveying meaning.