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Yes, as someone who used to work in that field for a bit in the customer side, I have to agree. Thisbis an operational topic, and those involve a ton of phone calls, people all over the place at multiple companies using multiple unconnected systems, a fair share of Excel and e-mail.

Some planning algorithm like this might work, for sure. But onpy if it is included in whatever software being used for this kind of planning. Otherwise, it is a nice academic excercise at best.

That's the whole point. And the reason why retaliation against whistleblowers ia mostly illegal. Proving reprisal actions can be so difficult so that it amounts to retribution itself.

All the reason more to honor those few brave souls who do it, I know I propably wouldn't. And claiming this particular one was killed is absolutely not doing that.

To come down to the general quality of discusion: reasons.

On a more serious note: Reporting states that Boeing and Spirit failed a third of their audits, so there is that. Also, FAA stopped Boeing from expanding their 737 MAX capacity. Also also, EASA can audit them as well (and very well might, deoending on what findings the FAA audits have; same as the FAA can audit Airbus in Europe).

But hey, if you think up even bigger, broader and deeper conspiracies necessary to make the initial obe believable, I cannot help you, or anyone.

Not the first time I think about quitting this place, for a couple of months now, discussion quality ain't any better than then comment section of my local newspaper. And thus really not worth the time.

Unless we have credible claims, or investigations, showing otherwise, I am in deed inclined to.

Not sure what to say, I always had family to catch me, intentionally or not, when I came even remotely close to what you are going through. All I can think of is this: nothing is worth sacrificing your life for. That, and most likely you are not alone, even if you din't know it. I am no religious person, so no prayers, but I sincerly hope you get through this!

Somehow, most people fail to see the obvious: The ongoing FAA audits at both, Spirit Aerospace and Boeing (so far it looks horrible based on initial reporting) will identify each and every single verifiable whistleblower claim anyways.

So no, despite the general retaliation against whistleblowers out of princial (for the record, that alone is illegal and should be punished a lot harder and more often), Boeing as a company or individual employees have nothing to gain here.

Funny how a place full of rather smart, educated and curious people like HN collectively fail to see that one, very simple, fact.

So, you kill all the people investigating this death as well? Spund logic, really, sound logic...

By whom?

All the time, huh? Not the usual lawyer intimidation, pressure and PI surveillenace, but actual murder?

Ok, can you link to cases then? In the US or Europe or some place like this, not Africa or some developing country where western companies run amok at times. And also some recent ones, in the last 20 years or so?

The amount of conspiracie flying around in this thread are shocking. Someone committed, as it seems, suicide after years, if not decades, of emotional work related stress. They came forward, publicly, with their concerns. So publicly, that everyone knows who they are, from co-workers over friends and family to the media. That alone adds another ton of stress and pressure. And on top of all of that, they went through a full day of deposition, aka interrogation, and looked at yet, at bare minimum, another day of those.

Each single factor mention above can, and did, cause people to commit suicide. And instead of focusing on this, and the fact that a very courageous person with high ethnical standards, is dead (I know that I would not have the courage to come forward the way they did in all likelyhood, and if I did, or didn't, I would be in serious emotional and psychological trouble), the self-proclaimed smart HN crowd is thrwong stuff around like "that's what corporate securits is there for" or "it could have been a government agency".

Two things:

First, for fucks sake, start showing some compassion, not just here but also on other subjects were someone weaker or more vulnerable suffers. The lack of emotional intelligence is the world into a colder place that already is and has to be.

Second, stop this jumping to conclusion behaviour, whether it is concerning on-going investigation or stories like, it onpy leads to very wrong conclussions or out right conspiracy theories. Both are embarrassing and expose a lack of curiosity. And no, just because some of the BS theories being thrown around stick sometines, doesn't mean all do, or that this way of thinking is working. It just measn that if enough theories are thrown to the wall, by sheer volume, some will stick. Just luck. And we should hold ourselves to higher standards around here, especially in cases of human tragedies.

Those depositions are extremely stressfull. Add in years if not decades of emotional stress, prior. So yes, that can cause depression and can lead to suicide.

Another case where this happened was Therabis Edit: Theranos, obviously (my Pixel 7 keyboard and I won't become close friends any time soon): one of their lead scientists, who very much opposed cheating and their approach, developed a depression because of that and him being completely sidelined. He committed suicide the day before his scheduled depossition in a patent case.

Both cases are tragic, as is every suicide. Just because his death is convenient, doesn't mean in it was foul play...

From people studying a subject through formal training? I agree, more people should do that!

193 million for CEO of a web forum? We truely live in interesting times...

Well, looking at the value of Twitter pre- and post acquisition, those 80% did do things that provided some positive value for the company.

Most of the time so, this approach leads to very deep discoveries of the kind other people learned in the first days of a 101 lesson studying said subject, at university or during some formal training of trade or craft.

There isba deep misunderstanding how aircraft purchases worm. Airlines run the numbers, and as soon as it becomes cheaper to buy a new one the old one gets replaced. Which model they choose depends a lot on their current fleet, switching from A320s to B737s and vice-verca is expensive, takes years and requires significant training of flight and maintenance crews. Only the big ones afford mixed fleets.

Add to that the fact that both, Boeing and Airbus, are fully booked for years to come, and it is pretty clear that the MAX isn't going anywhere as there are simply not enough alternatives to come by. Passengers aren't the ones deciding which planes are bought, airlines and leasing companies are.

There isba quite cynic name for passeneger: self-loading freight, also real freight doesn't complain.

It seems to have been pretty basic VAT fraud. Nothing smart or havky about that. Happens dozens of times every day at various scales. And each and every time it is just plain old tax fraud.

CumEx was my first guess as well. Not some basic run the mill VAT cheating.

This way of cheating with VAT is as old as there is a pan-European VAT agreement (the way to declare and manage it, not the amount). And sure as hell, there is always someone to try it. And sure as hell, someone is surprised they ultimately get cought...

It doesn't affect Boeing at all. Both, Airbus and Boeing are booked out for years to come. Airlines are buying those olanes, and quite frankly, passanger opinion doesn't factor into that much, if at all.

It helps Kayak so, more people booking there by selecting a certain model. And the airlines, they can easily price tickets for non-737 MAX flights higher now (they propably don't, but why not?). In the end, it is pointless: planes get swapped out all the time, so there is no guarantee dor the model to be correct. Unless you fly with an airline that has no MAX's in their fleet. In which case this whole Kayak thing is on the same level like vegan vegetables or lactose-free cheese.

No, the intentional absence of documentation is in itself a serious issue. It can even be assumed that tjis documentation, wpupd it exist, wouod proof wrong doing. It tje opposite of Boeing interest to hide stuff.

It still covered by wearing a seatbelt, you onow, ad one of those things were a seatbelt helps. I mean you cannot wear it while for turbulances and simultaniously not wear it in case the door next to you blows out. Schroedinger's seatbelt is not a real thing.

But it allows Kayak to increase sales, playing of peoples fears.

It peetty much looks like that; Boeing admitted there is no documentation to come by, it was not the only time the mistake happened and we have rather credible whistelblower. Add to that a DoJ investigation, and the above looks like a realistic scenario.

We will know once the FAA and NTSB did their investigation and audits, and published their reports.

Just to repeat: When you work in aerospace, you do not work on an aircraft without documenting your work and any deviations or non-conformities. Period. And even if you are forced and pressured by higher ups to do so, you do it properly. The fact that we have a whistleblower tells me rank and file are less than happy with the status quo so. Doesn't change the fact that someone made a serious mistake working on an aircraft. That alone is serious, even if it wouldn't have resulted in an incident.

I am in aerospace, and working at that door plug the way it was done, is simply unexcuseable. No documentation, doing non-standard work, sloppy work on the safety critical bolts... Overall culture is to blame, no doubt about that. And still, it does not absolve the rank and file.

Hah, I successfully identified sarcasm on the internet (ok, I was like 80% sure, 60%... anyway above 50%)!

Republican voters, for the record. We'll see in November. Earlier, it seems, for some of his criminal trials.

Well, there is a former president who is indicted multiple times, if that counts. Sure, he is no Kennedy, but still.

Those are not my kind of humor. To my knowledge, LWT doesn't do those. I could be mistaken, as I honestly do remember all their episodes by heart.

You sure about that? It is true so, by the time those people go to jail, they rend to be neither rich nor powerfull anymore. See Elizabeth Holmes, SBF, just spontaniously.