gravisultra

Palestine, South Africa, Vietnam...

This is the logic that cost Kamala Harris the election. Liberals are absolutely addicted to putting their head in the sand about how much people care about genocide and Israel's influence on our lives. We've hit the breaking point, Zionism is no longer electorally valid.

> "Stop the war in Iran" is a majority position in polls. People don't vote on that, because people don't care about the war in Iran.

This is simply incorrect and pure wishful thinking on your part.

> You are just in a minority, and this is what being in a minority feels like.

Once again, I'm in the majority. The majority of people do not support Israel or the war against Iran.

I'm talking about the majority position, not minority.

If Iran had nuclear weapons we would not be bombing them now and the world would be a more peaceful place. I certainly trust Iran with nuclear weapons a lot more than I trust Israel with them. We need Iran to keep Israel in check.

How my tax dollars are spent is a domestic issue. As is not implicating me in war crimes.

> They're not, you're just in a small minority

The majority do not support this war, nor do they support Israel. Our politicians refusing to listen to the electorate is also a domestic issue. As are the many attempts that Israel has made to strip us of our fundamental rights.

Budgets using my money interest me. Do you have a source for that $500B claim?

History does not say otherwise. The US however has a history of attacking Iran, including murdering 190 people on a civilian flight: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

This is a valid criticism. Whenever there is a push to improve life for US citizens, we are told that we do not have the funds. Yet, here we see an essentially unlimited budget to fight Israel's war of aggression against Iran, with zero benefit to US citizens. In fact, the costs (financial, moral and human) that we will pay for this excursion will be astronomically high.

It's not about intelligence, it's about strategy. Iran is bombing US assets in these countries and now that the US defenses are running thin, they're pulling back to Israel and leaving these countries out to dry. So not only is Iran effectively destroying the Israel/US defensive line and early warning systems, they're leaving the other Middle Eastern countries without defense and at the mercy of Iran. This seems to be pretty effective so far.

We can assume they've done this to the US as well. In fact Ghislaine Maxwell's sister created Chiliad, a company that powered the FBI and CIA surveillance systems: https://archive.ph/20140831071158/http://investing.businessw...

It's essentially the predecessor to Palantir (also with deep Israeli ties).

Israel regularly bombs schools and murders children, it was their signature operation in Gaza.

Israel was behind the Saudi oil facility attack. Saudi has confirmed it was not an Iranian attack.

Iran attacked US and Israel military targets in Bahrain and Dubai. Iran says Israel attacked ARAMCO in a false flag and the Saudis have indeed said that Iran was not behind the bombing.

At Israel, clearly demonstrating that they are the good guys.

Turning the entire Middle East against Israel and the US seems like a pretty good strategy actually. Iran has been incredibly successful in this war so far.

Herzl, Zionism’s founder explicitly described Zionism as colonialism in the 1890s:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism_as_settler_coloniali...

Zionism is a colonial ideology created by Europeans in the late 1800s.

No, that's mythology. Actual history is The Balfour Declaration:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

And Nakba: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba

That's not true at all. The current conflict isn't some thousand year old feud. It was very much caused by the deliberate provocation and importation of European settlers via Zionism. It's easy to wave our hands and say "it's so complicated!" or "they've been doing this for thousands of years!" but it's not complicated, much like apartheid South Africa, Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan were not complicated. Colonialism and ethno-centric racism are never good.